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Clippers close to aquiring Doc Rivers - WoJ

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Sydeffect, Jun 23, 2013.

  1. haydenfisher342

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    "Hi" -Kawhi Leonard
     
  2. RedDynasty

    RedDynasty Member

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    Parsons>Leonard.
     
  3. haydenfisher342

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    the endowment effect says this, but the above statement, is debatable. Most would lean to Leonard im confident of that.
     
  4. Hrock

    Hrock Rookie

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    This. 45 win team, and we all remember some close games that could have been a W for us, possibly a 50+ win year. All this with Harden, Parsons, Asik, Lin, and whoever McHale chose to fill out PF that game. Now this year they have a full off-season and better experience/chemistry playing together under their belt. Even if the Rockets only acquired DH, this team can still be dangerous.
     
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    The scary part is that you're pretty spot on. The Heat may be the reigning champs, Lebron may be the best in the league, but they're far from invincible (as we saw in the Finals and ECF). A good big man (like Dwight) and we could give them some problems.

    Our only issue is covering Bosh. We'd need someone to do that so Dwight could patrol the rim.
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    I'm not sure about this. Leonard has giant hands and Parsons does not so it's likely that Leonard is better endowed.
     
  7. haydenfisher342

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    Looked up "Well Endowment Effect" much different topic
     
  8. steddinotayto

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    What's lost in all this Howard for Griffin/Bledsoe trade is that the Clippers have a hard enough time fielding an entire 15 man roster even before trading for Howard.

    Right now, they have 7 players under contract for a total of $45 million. That DOES NOT include Chris Paul.

    Add Paul's extension (~$18 million?) and that's $63 million right there. Even if the Lakers decided to go braindead and S&T Howard to the Clippers (where Howard has little benefits considering it wouldn't get him a max 5 year contract), the Clippers just did a 2 for 1 trade that leaves them with now 7 players to the tune of about $64 million.

    And then if the Clippers do ship out Bledsoe, they'll have find a PG that's cheaper than dirt.

    Out of that $64, $10 million are committed to Caron Butler and Grant Hill, two players that are past their respective primes. Will Matt Barnes sign for cheap again? Maybe, maybe not.

    This doesn't bring up the fact that you still have $11 million committed to DeAndre Jordan, a player that can't be shipped to Boston for Garnett anymore.


    So to recap, the Clippers will have a starting line up of:

    Howard
    ?
    Butler
    Billups
    Paul

    With a bench of Crawford, Jordan, Hill, Willie Green and whatever bench the MLE can buy you.

    IMO, this Clipper roster is a little better than what they have at present time. Unless some team decides to be generous and take Jordan off of their hands and give them a more than capable PF in return, this roster has a lot of holes to fill out. Hell, if I were the Lakers, I'd go ahead and ship Howard's ass down the hall just for the satisfaction in knowing that the Clippers aren't going anywhere for the next couple of years.

    Gasol
    Griffin
    World Peace
    Meeks
    Nash

    Isn't world beaters but after next season, you still have a capable PF, a young and pretty good PG, and huge caproom to build around the both of them.
     
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    This is what happens when you have a player running a team. No coach should ever be worth a 1st round pick. If you have a good management, the odds that Rivers can give the team more wins than "Available FA Coach X" is so much lower than the having even a low 1st rounder.

    Coaches may be integral to a team's success, but there are enough good ones available without having to trade a 1st rounder for one. Unless, of course, your star FA dictates it.
     
  10. Jontro

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    My penis is Odenesque, but I can't palm a ball. What gives?
     
  11. haydenfisher342

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    Classy
     
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    Do you think it has more to do with just bad management than anything else?


    I mean, Jordan, Kobe... a lot of players force management's hand to produce a better team.

    I'm not disagreeing. I think we are saying much of the same as well. But, I don't think it is as much that Paul forcing management's hand is so bad if it produces a better overall product.

    Also, Doc is not their end prize as much as it is their bait.
     
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    I think they are (Clippers) are tired of being cellar dwellers and an embarrassment the the NBA....desperate times call for desperate measures
     
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    IM VERY AROUSED
     
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    I hate that Doc is going to get what he wants and end up coaching a better team while still getting paid a fortune. I hope the Clippers continue to flame out so a real look gets taken at Doc's coaching ability.
     
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    But Parsons one looks huge in his midget stump hands, at least.
     
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    What he's doing is worse than what Ray Allen did. At least Ray was a free agent and left after his contract is over.
     
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    Well, this news just about kills any idea of Atlanta or Dallas getting Paul and/or Howard so thats the good news here.

    I think those 2 franchises still make their pitches, but know they are realistically out of the running. So....they make their moves on their own plan B's.

    What do you all think the plan B is for Dallas and Atlanta now?
     
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    Simply from a winning perspective, the Clippers are much better off using that pick in a trade that gets them better players instead of Rivers. At $7mil/yr, that's top-shelf coaching money. Basically they can get whoever they want for that amount, so this isn't a money issue either.

    I can understand CP3 wanting management to win. But trading a 1st rounder for a coach runs counter-productive to that. It would seem much more reasonable for them to trade, say, that pick + Grant Hill for a better role player that may be slightly overpaid but still much better than Hill.
     
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    I completely agree that the move by itself is not the best. However, as I mentioned before about Doc being bait more so than the end prize is a huge factor in this move. Doc coming over accomplishes several things.

    1.) Inches closer to keeping CP3. Worth every penny of that 7 mil and first rounder!

    2.) Interests KG or Paul Pierce to come over. I do not think the league will accept a trade now with KG coming over; but, they seem confident that they can get it done. KG coming over is their way of alluring Dwight over in a S&T. Another possibility I do not see happening.

    3.) Doc is a better coach than a lot of coaches available. He will get more out of those guys than Negro did. That is enough to allure other free agents if #2 does not work and they are able to retain CP3.


    I am not saying I agree with the move or not. I think the thing I will say is, Clippers mngmt will find a way to screw things up. But, I do not think CP3 running the club is any different than when Jordan ran the Bulls or when Kobe ran the Lakers.

    All in all, I hope they get Doc, CP3 leaves and they trip flat on their face.
     

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