Agreed. This is just a distraction for him. Hillary's endorsement is going to be a lot more valuable.
It won't happen. Hillary cemented that over the last couple days so you can thank her for that. Obama would be insane to run with someone that suggested his Republican opponent is more qualified than he is to be commander in chief. You think it would be fun to run the Bush-McCain photo? Not nearly as much as it would for Republicans to run video of the Dem VP nom saying McCain's more qualified than the Democratic nominee.
Even if I agreed with you that elected delegates weren't the true measure (which I don't), your best case scenario completely ignores the idea that Obama might win or tie ever again during this primary season. Yeah, if she does well she'll pick up 32 or whatever in PA, but are you saying he won't win a single race out of WY, MS, OR, IN, NC, MT, SD? Even if you use the smallest margin by which he's currently ahead (about 98 delegates) and even if you give her a net gain of 32 in PA she still needs to win about 65 MORE than him over the next very few races just to get close to tying him. Where exactly do you see her grabbing up 65 more delegates than him without gigantic victories? Her only path to victory now is to kill him off. Which is obviously what she's trying to do. Super delegates will not support that. And the party shouldn't either. She passed up her chance to leave this lost race with honor. But, if this is the campaign she's going to run, she needs to leave it now regardless. She has become Joe Lieberman. She is no longer a Democrat. She is a "Democrat for Hillary."
Oh yeah I forgot all about that......I was only thinking of all the times they showed him out jogging......I guess that and Monica Lewinsky is what got him back in shape
Oh please, Batman. That's pretty rediculous. I know you've been around long enough to have seen several political campaigns for President. You have seen several political campaigns for President, right? Whoever is running always says they are the most qualified for the big job and that their opponent should really be running for town council somewhere. It's in the playbook they hand out during Presidential Races 101, at the community college. Impeach Bush.
First of all...Desert Storm was another 10 or so years away at the time Reagan was running against Bush. My point is that a guy like Reagan doesn't serve as VP to a guy like Bush. You don't have a personality like that in that role...and if you're a guy like Bush, you never pick a guy that charismatic to be your running mate and your second. Because he's going to outshine you.
That's a good point, Max. A better point than some others I've read. We've had some pretty strange tickets, though, that have won. Strange in the combination of personalities. Impeach Bush.
You may be right that Hillary has just killed the chance for the unity ticket. I hope not. There is genuine excitement for Hillary as well among Latinos and women and I have seen it. The remark about commander and chief and her and McCain passing the threshhold needs to be backed out on quickly or I think you are right. I have been pretty much with Deckard, in that I support Obama, but have great sympathy for Hillary for the unfair criticism the Clinton's have put up for twenty years and the sexism she is subjected to because she does not have a passive personality. However, the commander and chief and McCain remark are making me mad at her.
That is perhaps why the Hillary as VP does not work. Bill. Too charismatic and an ex Pres to boot,to be married to Obama's VP.
No question about it. She should "clarify" that, because it's stupid... politically stupid. That was bad advice from someone. Doesn't matter who gives it. If you are the candidate, you have to make the call and take the responsibility. At this rate, I'm losing optimism that we're going to avoid several, seemingly endless weeks of the two going at each other. Obama should watch how he responds. He doesn't want to move away from what has worked for him up until now. Impeach Bush.
http://www.kutv.com/content/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=fb646159-2cdf-42d6-8379-015f043cfc7f 2News' Exclusive Interview With Sen. Barack Obama CASPER, Wyo. - During an exclusive interview with 2News, Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama effectively quashed the idea of running on the same ticket as Hillary Clinton. During his campaign's presence in Wyoming on Friday, in advance of the state's caucus, Sen. Obama told 2News reporter Brian Mullahy that the only way he envisions a joint Democratic ticket with Clinton is if she is interested in becoming vice president.
With all due respect to the reporter, this is one of the worst leads I've ever seen. First, this statement (the only way he envisions a joint Democratic ticket with Clinton is if she is interested in becoming vice president) inherently contradicts the lead, which says he quashed the idea of running on the same ticket. Furthermore, since Obama is much more likely to be at the top of the ticket than Clinton, what he thinks about Clinton as a VP is significantly more relevant than what he'd think about being the VP himself (of course they'll say no at this point, especially if they're the frontrunner). Very strange piece.
True enough Cat. I think the article could have more accurately have been titled "Obama hints at sharing presidential ticket."
Sen Clinton, your breakfast is getting cold... ------- Obama: 'If I am not ready, why do you think I would be such a great vice president?' My colleague Carrie Budoff Brown e-mails from Columbus, Miss., with Obama's response to the Clintons' flotation of the notion that he could be her veep: scorn. COLUMBUS, Miss -- Sen. Barack Obama delivered an animated rebuke today of suggestions from the Clintons in recent days that he could run as her vice president. “Now first of all with all due respect, with all due respect," he said here during a town hall meeting. "I won twice as many states as Sen. Clinton. I won more of the popular vote than Sen. Clinton. I have more delegates than Sen. Clinton. So I don’t’ know how someone in second place can offer the vice presidency to someone in first place. If I was in second place I could understand but I am in first place right now. He referenced comments from Bill Clinton in 1992 that his “most important criteria” for vice president was that person must be ready to be commander in chief. “They have been spending the last two or three weeks” arguing that he is not ready to be commander in chief, Obama said. “I don’t understand. If I am not ready, why do you think I would be such a great vice president?” Obama asked the crowd, which gave him a standing ovation during his defense. “I don’t understand.” “You can’t say he is not ready on day one, then you want him to be your vice president,” Obama continued. “I just want everybody to absolutely clear: I am not running for vice president. I am running to be president of the United States of America.”
Michael Goodwin of the New York Daily News had a good line this morning; "Offering Obama the number 2 slot is like selling a house you don’t own."
I'm starting to wonder if Clinton's endgame here is to try to force Obama to put her on the ticket as the VP. She's pushing the line of both of them on the ticket, and she's trying to collect delegates with virtually no chance at the #1 spot. And she's now trying to rally the public around the idea of them as a "dream-ticket".
Has she said more about this other then her response to a direct question? The Daily News line is awesome!
I think it might be OK with her to be the first woman VP. You know she's married to Bill so it's not like second billing is new for her. If she was assured a substative role in the adminsistration. Hell yeah, go get'm tiger.
Obama should just come straight out and say "There is no way on God's green Earth I would ever consider Hillary as my vice president." He shouldn't even say why. It would be a sweet burn.
