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Clinton hints sharing presidential ticket

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by H-town_playa2k2, Mar 5, 2008.

  1. Deckard

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    I expect that photo to be used in the election. It should be used a lot.




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  2. Desert Scar

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    Nah, McCain has to embrace Bush. He needs the Bush/Rove base behind him, plus their collective hopes and legacies are both penned on Iraq smelling good. McCain made this decision when he supported GWB for re-election and gave the big speech at the convention (remeber there was tlak he would be Kerry's VP).
     
  3. Deckard

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    He didn't need to go to the White House for the endorsement and he shouldn't have. (IMO)



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  4. justtxyank

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    He didn't need to suck up the party's most powerful fund raiser? HA!

    Oh, and I think the nature of Obama's voting block (i.e., large number of black voters) means that the democrats are walking a fine line. If they go to the convention and choose Hillary and she doesn't have Obama on her ticket, there will be a large segment of the black voting block that will turn against that party feeling they were cheated.
     
  5. MadMax

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    i just don't think nearly as many would show up. out of a feeling of disappointment....i'm not black, but i'd probably be among them.
     
  6. Deckard

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    Would you vote for Senator Obama if Senator Clinton were on the ticket as VP, Max?



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  7. justtxyank

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    The black community I think would be much more prone to a volatile response if Obama doesn't get the nomination at this point if he leads in delegates. I think you'd likely see a large uprising of disenfranchisement in the community as they felt like the man stepped in again. More than just mere disappointment, they'd feel robbed.
     
  8. MadMax

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    i didn't even consider that.
     
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    yes, i would. but i'd be really surprised if he asked her to be.
     
  10. Achilleus

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    Relax, yo...

    50 Cent endorsed Hillary.
    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23245181-1702,00.html
     
  11. ymc

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    Yeah, so it makes a lot of sense for Clinton to pick him as VP
     
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    "On the pinhead front..." lol... Is that a recurring segment?
     
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    So what? Obama is turning out a large number of first time voters and has really jazzed up the black voting block. If the appearance is there that she "stole" the election because of super delegates, it's foolish to think that the race card won't play into people's feelings. Not all, as I know several black people who support Hillary and can't stand Obama, but the larger portion of them (that vote) favor Obama. I'd say a good number of his supporters will feel so cheated by this, that they will not vote at all. You heighten that sentiment in the black community that has a history of being oppressed or screwed politically, and I think you get a volatile mix.
     
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    But it makes none for him to accept.

    1) If her presidency crashes and burns the first four years, he'll take a hit as well.
    2) He'll be playing second fiddle politically to her in everything for at least four years
    3) He has built this idea around himself that he is against her type of politics

    I just think if he takes a VP nod from her, he probably raises the sail on his presidential hopes and watches them head off to sea.
     
  16. Achilleus

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    It was a joke (like your scenario).
     
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    But if he doesn't ask, then he might not be as much as a unifier as you think. Right?
     
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    Gotcha. Why do you think my scenario is a joke?
     
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    I would be surprised as well, but I think it would be a smart move, if she would accept it. No sure thing, that. Just look at the numbers voting for both of them across the country. I understand that Clinton has a lot high negatives with a lot of people, but the numbers show that she has great support among blue collar and Latino Democrats. Barack needs those voters.

    Did you watch the California debate? When a question from the audience was asked about both being on the ticket, the spontaneous applause was huge. I think it would work. VP is only as powerful/influential as the President allows it to be. Does anyone seriously think Senator Obama wouldn't be his own man?

    I hope it happens, if Barack doesn't knock her out of the race in PA. The longer this goes on, the easier it will be made for McCain's campaign. I wish they would have a handshake, make the agreement, and get on with running against McCain.


    PS: I'm really, really glad you said yes. I have a great deal of respect for your opinion.





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  20. ymc

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    But if he refuses, isn't he put himself above the party's fortune? Isn't he supposedly a unifier? ;)
     

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