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Clinton hints sharing presidential ticket

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by H-town_playa2k2, Mar 5, 2008.

  1. emjohn

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    Hilary loses nomination, her supporters fall right in line behind Obama.

    Obama loses nomination, his supporters go home and have poor attendance at the pols in Nov.

    Hills knows that she has to loop Obama onto her ticket if she wants the votes from his camp.

    Evan
     
  2. mc mark

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    Why would Hillary want an empty suit with the middle name of Hussain on her ticket?
     
  3. justtxyank

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    It doesn't make sense to me. How could Obama run the campaign he has and then either appoint her or accept her appointment for VP?
     
  4. Major

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    He can't and he won't - unless he's forced to as some kind of brokered solution to end the contest.
     
  5. rimrocker

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    Teddy wasn't fat and was in good shape, particularly during his presidency.

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    He may have put on a little weight in his later years, but he exercised regularly while in the White House. From his NYTimes Obit:

    From his autobiography:

    While President, he would go on long runs with staff, but on his runs, if you encountered an obstacle, you could not go around it... thus they became much like steeplechases with Teddy running through streams and swamps, climbing fences, and vaulting downed trees.

    Bully!
     
  6. Achilleus

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    Yeah, dude...

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  7. rimrocker

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    On the other hand, there was his predecessor, William McKinley:

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  8. rimrocker

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    Photos of Teddy as President:

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  9. Deckard

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    Probably the most brilliant President we've had. I've always admired him.



    Impeach Bush.
     
  10. rimrocker

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    Definitely a president you'd want to have a beer with.
     
  11. thumbs

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    For his era, Teddy Roosevelt was the perfect choice. Today he would be trashed for his bold actions (the Panama Canal comes to mind) and opinions.
     
  12. Dubious

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    BS; nobody with the ego to run for president wants to be #2 on the ticket.
    Nobody with the ego to run for president wants anyone who might take away any of their spotlight on the ticket with them.

    Richardson is the perfect running mate to complete the rainbow of the new America, plus he'd be handy to have around.

    Biden might make a pretty good Secretary of State....if Colin Powell wants to stay in the private sector.
     
  13. ymc

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    Well, if Clinton wins fair and square and then she invites Obama to be her VP, I think Obama will suffer politically if he refuses. I believe Clinton will do that because it can make sure her winning the general election.

    Having said that, Obama is still poised to win unless he makes a major mistake. So this scenario is unlikely anyway.
     
  14. bnb

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    She was responding to a question.....the alternative to 'maybe maybe no' which is what she said, would be 'no.' And that wouldn't be a winning answer either.

    I think Dubious is right on this.....neither wants to be second...and neither wants such an independently strong second with them.

    It would be kind of a sweet Lifetime Movie of the Week ending, though....
     
  15. ymc

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    Obama won't do this because there is no political advantage for him to do so. But I do see that Clinton might do this for political gain. What's a big deal with Obama as a VP? VPs don't really play much role anyway, especially for a junior person like Obama who's connections are not that strong for now.
     
  16. The Cat

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    Evidence, please. More people said yesterday that they would not be satisfied in any way if Obama was the nominee than Clinton.
     
  17. bnb

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    The general election is eight months away.....

    Let's dig up the polls from eight months ago and make bold predicitons about McCain's nomination, and the Hillary/Obama deadlock....
     
  18. Deckard

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    Very good point. As unlikely as it may seem, at the moment, that Mr. Obama might choose Ms. Clinton as his VP, or the reverse, it would be well to remember the countless times in the past that supposed "bitter" rivals "kissed and made up."

    An example:

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    If anyone wants to know what a real vicious campaign is like, google the 2000 South Carolina GOP primary and what Bush/Rove did to McCain and his family. Yet here is McCain, sucking up to King Bush for his endorsement.




    Impeach Bush.
     
  19. Desert Scar

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    Yep. If Hillary somehow wins the nom, getting Obama on her side doubles the Dem chance to win. She has to do whatever she can to get him on board if it gets there.

    Obama won't appoint her VP unless it is so close to a deadlock that is the only way to keep the party in tact.

    But if Hillary comes back to take it, she does have to offer it to him (see above).

    And being faced with staying a junior senator and increasing your party's chances to lose the exec branch OR being VP and the heir apparent, and hopefully doing the most you can for your country and party--yes I can see Obama taking that spot. Heck, in the VP role you still get to cast a senate vote if it comes down to a tiebreaker plus the executive experience. As Deckard said, bigger egos have joined the VP ticket (LBJ for Pete's sake).

    Having said all this I don't think it will come to it. Obama will win and another will be on the ticket. The major problem with Biden for Obama is he voted for the war--coming from a blue state no less. I don't think he is Obama's VP.
     
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    this will backfire big time for mccain in the general election. hes already won the republican nomination. why accept bush's endorsement?

    by shaking hands w/ bush, hes writing his own fate among independents/moderates who are dissatisfied w/ how this admin has run this country for the past 7 yrs.
     

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