the warriors and spurs team ball motion offense only works with a high payroll and elite level role players like boris diaw, iggy, livingston and andrew bogut( guys that are making mid max money.. tilman wont pay for that, heck most owners wont). their is a reason steph currys style of play is not trickling down to the younger generation but james hardens style IS. Playing like luka, trae, and harden allows owners to save money while still being very competitive.. its why markelle fultz went number 1 a few years back just because scouts thought he was the next harden, and cade will go number 1 this year because people think he is the next luka
I'd argue the Warriors got lucky that some of their guys were on rookie deals or team friendly 2nd contracts because they took a little while to develop. Then with the perfect timing the salary cap jump, they could afford to bring in guys like Bogut, Iggy, and even Lee. Yes, they eventually went into the luxury tax, but it didn't start out that way. The Spurs also had a history of developing young or international talent on their roster around their big 3/4 during their title run. The key is that you cannot just keep trading away all your 1st round picks (or early 2nd rounders), because that is where you find cheap rotational players. Though you also need a coaching staff that will develop those guys. I'd argue the last Rockets HC that was regularly good at developing young talent was Adelman.
Harden isoball was what kept us competitive when a sht owner can't be bother to spend money to build a team to contest for the ring. Teamball can't win sht if your team blows or lack a superstar (this season as an example) but at least with a iso superstar u can bet your ass that we would never have a season like this again. Hardens playstyle might irriate causals, but at least we were competitive and winning.
Keep btching about teamwork and teamball, the threads page count are so low, u can rant about it all u want now
I mean, that's literally what happened with the Rockets. We lost D'Antoni, Morey, Harden, Westbrook and the majority of the bench. If that's not the same situation, I'm not sure what is...
What's the worst pick OKC can get? That is our floor right? Doesn't OKC have a better than 40 percent chance of getting a top 4 pick?
Yea tillman drove away people who wanted to be there who made houston there home. I'm not sure any executives at this level saw a CEo, GM, ASsistant GM leave good high level money on the table to leave something they had an attachment too, then add to a coach and associate head coach who just didn't want to negotiate after their first negotiations with tillman and that was embarassing, then of course our stars/vets...we're left with rookie staff/gm and essentially the team. It had Landry's Rockets written all over it. We got the Dollar Value dolan experience. Bulls also deserve alot of the hate, MJ said he was willing to come back, ******* Krause had a vendetta with Phil Jackson and they didn't get a chacnce to defend their title. Reisndorf has a lot of quotes of him valuing baseball over hoops too, he got to set more of a narrative since Krause passed, but he doesn't get enough blame either. MJ was the bulls, city, brand, everything and the prestige and remains of the bulls probably to this day are still him, theres no way kobe and people would consider trades to the bulls if he wasn't there and they botched it. In modern day economics, now the revenue of nba has grown, the new buyers are all billionaires, the par of sp ending on the league is way higher, Tilman takes the cake as most embarassing owner. Had to be us...had to be a fellow houstonian..SMH
Yea remember Spurs, a small market team, and warriors formerly a joke of the league, have spent a lot on their Front office, on their staff, on their infrastructure to develop players. Spurs were one of the first teams to provide a personalized phd nutritionist back in the big 3 days, they hired a specialized shooting coach, had plans and then yes they still continu to over pay and bring in vets. Guys who are not headliners and don't generate revenue, tilman doesn't do that. He ignores bird rights, just keeps stars who sell seats and attention, then demands a better product knowing most casuals will say AriZa isnT goIng To MakE a DifFerNce Warriors have an owner worth a quarter of tilman, they eschewed the idea of immediate profits when they had generational talent and even with injuries contineu to just want to build a brand, investing in a culture that is all about optimal operation, hiring guys like Jerry west who golf half the time to have clout, to have direction, hiring in Steve Nash before that as a consultant probably high paid to get him there, and then pay ridiculous luxury tax on things we'd all argue aren't worth it, even Tilman Retweeted that, but the point is they are running like tesla or some silicon start up. Long term brand building. They may have just earned themselves a worldwide audience like knicks and lakers because of this and not thinking short term like a Landry's and now they made themselves a destination for players knowing they can play in a great organization and an atmosphere. They've upgraded facilities all around, improving fan experience while we use the same damn cups from last year and have prices raised on us while tilman cheaped out on a contending team and drove away great talent on the court and off the court. Houston is the 4th biggest metro market,and thunder have paid tax more than us. We really got the Landrys experience, the Dollar Value Dolan
Was hoping for third worst record for different reasons. But obviously none of that will matter if we don’t get a top 4 pick.
Yep it became more of our most efficeint option, we cheaped out on the margins, the role player, and the cohesion. It just became our most efficient option with bringing in guys off the streets and specialist and border line dleague players and buy out markets and trying to make it work. Tilman fooled a lot of people and laughed all the way to the bank.
No, we get the worst pick of our own, OKC and MIA if we fall outside the top 4 (so we get Miami's pick not our own, ergo, a swap.)
We are both wrong. If they land outside the top 4, then we swap with the Heat pick. How the hell did we come up with trade? F'ing Tilman.
Imagine if this team didnt have that win streak early on in the season. This is truly embarrassing TBH. Tilman is dumb as a rock. The goal is to get the best player out of the draft, not the 1st pick. There is a reason why Morey, Harden and CP3 are sitting at the top of the rankings. Its really not that hard to build a winning team in the NBA..especially when you have a competent front office like Houston did pre 2018.
