Coal Cronie Manchin won't support it. He's better off writing an exec order, but the economy is getting wrecked by sanctions so there's not much wiggle room.
No they won't. And they will blame those million deaths not on climate change but something else, maybe even the efforts to fight climate change
@Sweet Lou 4 2 @Invisible Fan You might enjoy (or cry about) this. That curve fitting technique - my goodness. A quick observation - Climate change is extremely complicated but the fundamentals are solid. Economic forecasting is extremely complicated and the fundamentals are crap. The models for climate change have been solid. The models from economists have been crap. Bad Math Is Steering Us Toward Climate Catastrophe | OpenMind Magazine
It's self inflicted because even if there can be net savings and even gains, there will be winners and losers in the transition. Those losers have built way too much over the past century to sit by and be overtaken. They can also spend millions in messaging telling people it's ok to be lazy and take the easy way out while everyone boils like frogs in a kettle. Btw, economists can't predict the short term economy, can't predict recession or even wall street crashes, yet they can predict economic consequences for climate change with exact certainty. These are all their domains that a multidisciplinary scientist wouldn't have great certainty to touch... Must be easy making a living and sleeping soundly as an economist.
They already are. Commodre's post accuses CO2 mitigation of a genocide. Ive basically given up on the idea that we can fix things. The time to start was probably 30-40 years ago. Anything now is too little too late and probably not worth political or economic codts.
Yes. They’ll use terms like “beach erosion” And blame wild land fires on previous fire suppression efforts ignoring record temps and drought.
This is one of those post it’s weird liking but in the past few years I’ve been thinking we’re past the point of no return. From Here on out it won’t be stopping climate Change but mitigating it.
Climate change is coinciding with a generational turning (debt levels for modern "responsible" nations haven't been this high since a 100 years ago). I would say it's more likely than unlikely a life changing war will come within the next 20 years, and that's probably why open corruption runs rampant for any party in control since 08. Couple broke, unhappy, or starving people with borders likely redrawn from geographical change and it's not gonna be pretty or "planned". All about finding the best place to hide or stash away what you've "earned"...
Just posted this in the Wildland Fire thread but might as well post this here too. Europe is baking under record heat and Italy and many other parts of Europe are suffering under historic drought. The Po river which is essential for Italian agriculture as dried up. It could hit 49 C degrees (120 F) in Sicily today. Fires are breaking out through many parts of Europe.
I don't think it's too late. Cutting CO2 now buys us time. The more we can slow the impact of climate change, the more time we have to adjust and find solutions. However, humanity is just not equipped to deal with long term problems. How do you convince a family that's just trying to save for a better life that climate change matters that much to them? Why should they care about rising sea levels if they don't live near the coast? Or fires, droughts, or any of that if it will cost them an extra $50 a month? Forget about the oil company propaganda machine that so many conservative posters happily become free brand ambassadors to. People are simply selfish, and what happens to someone somewhere else doesn't matter if it will cost them $0.10 a gallon more at the pump or 5% more in their electric bill. The only way to change things is to push for innovation that makes green energy competitive with carbon-based energy.
review of Alex Epstein's book Fossil Future: Zero Impact's Grim Cost Fossil fuels are still essential for preserving human civilization. https://lawliberty.org/book-review/zero-impacts-grim-cost/
