Climate Change

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You cannot trust the scientists on global warming because they are not independent. They receive funding from the government and/or liberal-minded academic boards of regents. Espousing anything other than global warming beliefs would mean a certain end to their funding and their existence as a faculty member. Frankly, the scientists are less independent and more conflicted than anyone in this debate.

 

You can't trust scientist but you can TOTALLY trust politicians...

 

Yup, we should trust people who have no knowledge in the field more, I completely agree.

 

Again though, they are saying that it's already too late and we're doomed.....so if that's the case, why screw up the economy for something that would prove futile? That's the problem with fear mongering, if you get to a certain point, no one cares anymore.

 

You can't trust science. The Conservative Motto.

 

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We should listen to the mandate of the voters on this issue, which is to prioritize economic growth and prosperity over the hypothetical impact a 1% rise in temperature may have on the weather in 20 years. Rust belt voters don't give a rip about a theoretical scientific prediction model -- especially when the IPCC models have been flat wrong for a decade. The climate change hucksters should be thrown in jail for the damage to the economy that they have already created with their wild, hysterical predictions of impending doom -- none of which have come true.

In January 2006 Al Gore predicted that we had ten years left before the planet turned into a total frying pan. We made it.

CLIMATE FRAUD KILLS JOBS

 

This Myron Ebell character is not a scientist, has no degree in science and yet we should trust him on the matter of science more than scientist.

Yes, trust the guy that worked for the Tobacco industry once before, the same Tobacco industry that wanted us all to ignore science in favor of a few more dollars.

Greed will be the downfall of humanity I suppose.

 

This goes beyond climate change for me for Trump. It's science denying. Clinton said plenty about it but with all the news channels and websites out there, it's hard for everything to get its proper attention. This article about Trump from Scientific American deeply disturbed me.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-comments-on-science-are-shockingly-ignorant/

 

I think your sarcasm meter is broke.

 

Believe in climate change: Vast majority of scientists, vast majority of energy companies, vast majority of elected officials with access to information around the world

Don't believe in climate change: elected officials in the United States who rely on the vote of non-college educated people that have been told climate change was fake for 30 years by oil companies that now say they were wrong.

The "independent" and "trustworthy" ones are the politicians. LOL

Oh well. At this point we all just need to get on board with it being fake and pray the scientists and oil companies are all wrong because we aren't going to do anything meaningful about it.

 

See this is the problem with a 'mandate' just because Trump won doesn't mean that the public agrees with everything he wants to pass. He barely touched on this issue, I wonder how much of the public knows what it really means for the climate in the first place.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/190010/concern-global-warming-eight-year-high.aspx

Many Americans DISAGREE here. They are worried about it and that worry is growing.

 

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You can also believe in climate change and 1) Not think that people are causing it and 2) Believe that the costs of combating climate change do not justify the benefits. I think most Americans fall into the second bucket -- they simply don't think the cost of fighting climate change is worth it.

The liberals' approach to this issue has been to provide condescending lectures on the topic and insult people who don't agree with them. Not a great way to persuade people. Their argument simply has not been effective, which is why voters are unwilling to prioritize this issue.


GOOD DAY

 

From my link...


"Record 65% Blame Human Activity for Rising Temperatures

That finding relates to another record broken in the new poll -- the 65% of Americans now saying increases in the Earth's temperature over the last century are primarily attributable to human activities rather than natural causes. This represents a striking 10-percentage-point increase in the past year and is four points above the previous high of 61% in 2007."

 

Even some of the Republican candidates were starting to come around on this issue in the primary but now they'll all jump back to their anti-science and anti-intellectual stances since they've gotten power back. I could put up with 4 years of most Republican policies but the damage that is going to be done on this one is going to hurt big time. It would be nice if they would even try to listen to the majority that didn't vote for them but they won't. I like how the Republicans claim that Obama is such a weak leader but as soon as they take power they're going to be backing out of multiple agreements that we have entered into around the world (Paris agreement, Iran deal). Yeah, that's real leadership right there...

 

Why are you arguing with a brick wall?

 

I honestly wanted to see how long it would go on...

 

"Liberals" pushing the climate change agenda include ExxonMobil which acknowledges man made climate change and supported the Paris Accords.

"Liberals" pushing the climate change agenda include the military which has asked for steps to be taken to protect bases around the world from the effects of climate change.

"Liberals" pushing the climate change include virtually every industrialized nation in the world.

The "heroes" fighting back against this agenda are elected politicians with no scientific or academic support who rally people by calling opponents tree huggers and liberals.

A real good vs evil. Thank god we have those good old boys in Congress fighting back against scientists, academics, energy companies and global leaders. Without them we might actually implement policies or stick to treaties supported by scientists, academics AND business interests. That would be a DISASTER!

 

HO HO HO

DonnyMoist, GOOD DAY to you. Remember it was the Rust Belt voters who elected Donald J Trump to be the new leader of the free world. These Rust Belt voters have had their lives significantly damaged by climate change policies. They chose economic prosperity over climate change - it's simply how they voted. The economic strength argument, the jobs argument, and the low energy cost argument won the day over the "spend trillions of dollars to maybe lower the temperature by 1 degree in 20 years" argument. Low cost energy should be lauded as a top priority. It's the engine that drives economic growth. Global warming is a political enrichment scheme intended to do the following: 1) Replace the existing energy industry (conservative leaders) with the renewable energy industry (liberal leaders); 2) Stunt China and India's economic growth by raising their energy costs; 3) Limit Russia's geopolitical power over Europe; 4) Exert greater control over the populace by gaining legal, regulatory and financial control over one of the world's largest industries. There you have it -- and Wikileaks confirmed that this is how liberal politicians scheme.


GOOD DAY

 

This only accelerates the need to reduce or sequester carbon emissions. Doesn't seem Hillary and a divided Congress would've done much better.

The CAA and CWA only came about when rivers like Mississippi and Missouri were burning day and night with industrial waste. It didn't' help that buildings and people were getting burned by rain.

Throw three Hail Mary's to technology and kiss your smartphone.


The bigger worry for me is the sheer amount of plant and animal species going extinct every year. That's a different matter than global warming and more about overpopulation and industrialization.

 

Brick wall was an overstatement. They at least serve a purpose.

This is more like arguing with a wind up Archie Bunker doll.