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[Climate Change] Summer Watch 2016

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Cohete Rojo, Jun 1, 2016.

  1. Cohete Rojo

    Cohete Rojo Contributing Member

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    A new year with a new season approaching, may as well start this now.

    For the first piece of anecdotal evidence: It's the global warming stupid...or El Niño...or La Niña.

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  2. Buck Turgidson

    Buck Turgidson Mineshaft Enthusiast

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    Yes it's El Nino, they've been predicting wetter and cooler than normal since last fall. It's early, but they're also saying La Nina is going to kick Texas in the balls next summer so enjoy this one while you can.
     
  3. B-Bob

    B-Bob my celli weighs a ton
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    Why not "[CLIMATE CHANGE] The weather of June 1, 2016"

    or

    "[CLIMATE CHANGE] My farts smell weird this morning"

    About as sensible as the current thread title.
     
  4. Haymitch

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    Speaking of which I had insane gas yesterday. Insane. Worst of my life. Not necessarily the worst smelling but just so much total. Not sure what caused it, but if I had to guess I'd say it was the very cheesy pizza I had for dinner the night before.
     
  5. Trader_Jorge

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    [Educational Post]
    People still talk about climate change? I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but higher taxes and more windmills won't change the weather. Everyone wants to believe that they are making an impact on the world, and climate change is that vehicle for the idealists in Europe and Latin America. But to think that man's impact on the global climate is anything more than minuscule is the height of arrogance. Man made CO2 contributes approximately 0.1% (one tenth of 1%) of the total greenhouse gas effect. Our actions are completely meaningless. In other words, any cost benefit analysis would suggest that it's not worth a single penny of investment to go after this problem. This is likely why Americans do not prioritize climate change as an important issue.


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  6. txtony

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    Might as well

    [CLIMATE CHANGE] Al Gore admission that Climate Change isn't bad.
     
  7. Cohete Rojo

    Cohete Rojo Contributing Member

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    Because for every flood, heat wave, snowstorm, etc attributed to global warming there is no comparable criticism, such as yours.
     
  8. Anticope

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    This post is about as educational as Trump University.
     
  9. Xenon

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    Forgive the formatting here but in keeping with the spirit of the thread I though it'd be a good idea to post some daily records set for the US. Here is a snapshot from 5/29/16. The first list are all time max temperature records for the date tied or broken including an impressive record of 9 degrees above the previous record at Middleboro, MA. The 2nd list is minimum temperatures set for the same date. This should be a fun thread to keep tabs on throughout the summer.

    I'll try to post regular updates.

    STATION DATE RECORD PREV. DATE PREV. RECORD NUMBER OF YEARS DIFFERENCE
    NORFOLK 2 SW, CT US 2016-05-29 88 2012-05-29 86 131 2
    STAMFORD 5 N, CT US 2016-05-29 93 1987-05-29 93 60 0
    FROSTBURG 2, MD US 2016-05-29 85 2012-05-29 84 44 1
    AMHERST, MA US 2016-05-29 92 1931-05-29 91 123 1
    BARRE FALLS DAM, MA US 2016-05-29 91 1978-05-29 86 57 5
    EAST BRIMFIELD LAKE, MA US 2016-05-29 90 2012-05-29 87 54 3
    JAMAICA PLAIN, MA US 2016-05-29 97 1998-05-29 92 53 5
    LOWELL, MA US 2016-05-29 96 1959-05-29 93 127 3
    MAYNARD, MA US 2016-05-29 97 1978-05-29 93 52 4
    MIDDLEBORO, MA US 2016-05-29 89 2011-05-29 80 123 9
    EPPING, NH US 2016-05-29 92 1978-05-29 90 52 2
    KEENE, NH US 2016-05-29 94 1911-05-29 93 123 1
    LAKEPORT 2, NH US 2016-05-29 92 1987-05-29 92 33 0
    NORTH CONWAY, NH US 2016-05-29 93 1978-05-29 93 42 0
    SURRY MOUNTAIN LAKE, NH US 2016-05-29 91 1978-05-29 89 67 2
    BELVIDERE BRIDGE, NJ US 2016-05-29 89 2012-05-29 88 34 1
    CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR, NJ US 2016-05-29 90 1931-05-29 90 123 0
    FREEHOLD MARLBORO, NJ US 2016-05-29 92 1977-05-29 92 123 0
    NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE, NJ US 2016-05-29 91 2012-05-29 91 48 0
    ALCOVE DAM, NY US 2016-05-29 87 1977-05-29 86 74 1
    ANGELICA, NY US 2016-05-29 90 2006-05-29 90 123 0
    AUBURN, NY US 2016-05-29 92 1987-05-29 92 118 0
    ELMIRA, NY US 2016-05-29 95 1987-05-29 92 122 3
    GOUVERNEUR 3 NW, NY US 2016-05-29 88 1978-05-29 87 78 1
    JAMESTOWN 4 ENE, NY US 2016-05-29 89 2012-05-29 89 55 0
    MALONE, NY US 2016-05-29 85 1987-05-29 82 33 3
    OLD FORGE, NY US 2016-05-29 86 2012-05-29 85 108 1
    TROY LOCK AND DAM, NY US 2016-05-29 95 1977-05-29 89 59 6
    WAVERLY, NY US 2016-05-29 93 1911-05-29 91 123 2
    WHITEHALL, NY US 2016-05-29 92 1978-05-29 92 79 0
    BRADFORD 4 SW RES 5, PA US 2016-05-29 88 2012-05-29 87 74 1
    CANTON, PA US 2016-05-29 90 1987-05-29 90 39 0
    CHALK HILL 2 ENE, PA US 2016-05-29 86 2012-05-29 86 38 0
    CONFLUENCE 1 SW DAM, PA US 2016-05-29 89 2012-05-29 88 69 1
    FORD CITY 4 S DAM, PA US 2016-05-29 90 1998-05-29 90 72 0
    PLEASANT MOUNT 1 W, PA US 2016-05-29 87 2012-05-29 85 64 2
    PRINCE GALLITZIN STATE PARK, PA US 2016-05-29 88 1987-05-29 88 33 0
    PUTNEYVILLE 2 SE DAM, PA US 2016-05-29 90 1987-05-29 87 72 3
    SALINA 3 W, PA US 2016-05-29 89 1977-05-29 89 63 0
    TOWANDA 1 S, PA US 2016-05-29 92 2012-05-29 90 121 2
    WOODSTOCK, VT US 2016-05-29 92 1911-05-29 90 123 2
    BARTOW 1 S, WV US 2016-05-29 84 2012-05-29 83 67 1
    COOPERS ROCK STATE FOREST, WV US 2016-05-29 86 2012-05-29 86 38 0
    ROWLESBURG 1, WV US 2016-05-29 89 2012-05-29 89 74 0


    STATION DATE RECORD PREV. DATE PREV. RECORD NUMBER OF YEARS DIFFERENCE
    JAL, NM US 2016-05-29 45 1923-05-29 46 97 -1
     
  10. rimrocker

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    Speaking of daily weather, in my little slice of OR, we are expecting 106 or more by Saturday while in Portland, it will likely hit 97. This is after our first Spring in recorded history of zero days with freezing temps.

    Conifer mortality in the Pacific NW is proceeding at ridiculous levels due to drought and bark beetles who depend on warmer winters. El Nino precip this year was welcomed, but only wetted the rind of heavy fuels, which will dry out fast in these temps. Additionally, the winter saw much higher than normal temps, so we got rain instead of snow, which only accumulated at the highest elevations. That means the soils will dry out faster while there will be more grass that grew due to the rain to carry fires this summer.

    We are rapidly changing landscapes with bugs and fire, moving from forest to shrub/grass. We currently see it mostly on the east side of the Cascades, where precip is traditionally less, but we can also see it is just a matter of time before the west side and coastal ranges come online in a big way, probably within the next few years.

    And that's just what I know and pay attention to. Not that it really matters anymore. It's real and it is here with a vengeance. I'm not sure there is anything we can do even if the deniers suddenly saw the light and started cooperating instead of obstructing. It's the one issue where I am close to an absolute pessimist. Nothing else in my life or politics has come close.
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Thank Sir Trade Jorge, PhD of Ignorance.
     
  12. JuanValdez

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    Will this thread confusing climate and weather be as successful as the last thread that confused climate and weather?
     
  13. B-Bob

    B-Bob my celli weighs a ton
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    Every bit as successful. Haymitch so far has the most relevant post. :grin:
     
  14. ipaman

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    not hitting 90 is significant because the Houston area has added more and more concrete and metal while clearing more and more greenspace year after year. that urban heat island factor has been neutralized because of this crazy weather.
     
  15. B-Bob

    B-Bob my celli weighs a ton
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    Hmmm. I guess I just don't see the scientific community jumping at every flood, heat wave, snowstorm, etc.

    I do see some really stupid reporters asking, over and over, "do you think this could be caused by climate change!?!?!?!11!! PLZ SAE YESH!!"

    "Um, well, no, we can't say that definitively. We know there is more energy in the atmosphere, um, but that doesn't mean this tornado can be blamed on the coal industry. I caution people to not confuse weather with clim-"

    "There you have it, folks! An EYEWITLESS exclusive! He said quote 'blamed on the coal industry' end quote. Back to you in the studio, Mr. ****head!"
     
  16. CometsWin

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    LOL. Same as the last thread.
     
  17. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    ultimate strawman - can't attack the science or scientist so find someone who says something foolish like a reporter to attack all of climate change
     
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    Ingest 0.1% of your body weight in cyanide and get back to me.
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It's not even that, it's not 0.1% of the effect, it's 90% of the effect. He's just misquoting or pulling something out of his butt.
     
  20. Trader_Jorge

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    [Educational Post]
    Actually part of the great climate change deception is to ignore the impact of water vapor on the greenhouse effect. Water vapor is about 95% of the cause of the greenhouse effect, but the zealots in this Administration have conveniently removed water vapor from the statistics, which then causes poorly informed readers (like the two posters above), to erroneously conclude that CO2 is 70% of the effect. Of course, 95% of CO2 contribution is natural (we can't do anything about it), and not man-made, so there's that too. It's all deception intended to mislead the gullible -- those with a poor grasp of the facts. The bottom line is that man's efforts to combat climate change will have the same effect as one human urinating into the Pacific Ocean.

    This boogeyman that has been created, carbon dioxide, is a colorless, odorless gas and is far from a pollutant. As you read this post aloud, you are emitting CO2. It tells you something when the Administration starts referring to CO2 as a pollutant -- you know right there that the intent is to mislead and deceive. Honest debates on facts do not include deception or manipulation. The brain types of those who have been manipulated by the climate change deception are prone to emotional and idealistic persuasion. They want to feel like they are on a crusade to save the world, and their contribution to the effort is significant. These are exactly the types of people who are targeted and manipulated by this propaganda.


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