[Click2Houston] "Ike" Students Skip School To Protest Immigration Plan (w/video)

You are correct as long as wages keep up with inflation.

Some argue illegal immigrants keep wages low. Do there low wages though keep prices low?

 

It depends on the industry, my friend.

 

I find it rather ironic that these kids skipped school to protest the inability of some to get an education.

 

Is it true that children of illegal immigrants cannot be denied an education? If so, who's paying for it? Our Taxes?

 

While I agree with most everything you've said, I find it tragically ironic that the people you decribe are more often than not people that were born here and have never even been to Mexico (or whatever country's flag they love waving around)!!!

The problem is deeper than just an influx of foreigners. There is an entire generation growing up here that doesn't know what it means or appreciates being an American. This applies to all races.

 

We need to get rid of all the hyphenated Americanism. People need to be less concerned with their ethnic origin and more concerned with what it means to be an American.

These people that walked out are supporting the illegal invasion of this nation. They aren't true Americans in spirit, even if they were born here. It's obvious where their allegiances lie.

 

Jump to conclusions much?

What about someone who wanted to search hundreds of thousands of people at a protest for papers despite not having probable cause to do so? Would that person still be a true American in spirit even though they have flagrant disregard for the American concept of innocence until proven guilty and the 4th amendment of the U.S. constitution? They would also seem to have a disregard for the 1st amendment and the freedom to assemble for protest as well, considering this person advocated harrassing those assembled and demanding proof of citizenship.

What standing would you hold that person as far as just how American they are?

 

this was the entire freaking basis of hte united states. more people spoke german at home than speak spanish at home today back in the early 1900s.

the first part of the hypen that heritage is protected by the fact that i live up to the second part. it is not diametrically opposed. it is entirely being american. im sorry if your a self hating welsh/hispanic but our country is great given the fact that there are german american towns all over texas and irish and italian americans all over the northeast and hungarians in detroit etc. it makes it lovely.

 

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/3753381.html

Well, looks like there were some additional marchers today, including some from Sam Houston High, where I used to teach a weekly lesson on success skills to seniors. Yes, you heard that correctly, bigtexxx was entrusted to teach success skills to high school students. I made sure to incorporate a good Republican lesson into each of my lectures. hee hee

The classes were made up of 99% Hispanics, I'd say. That being said, I'm surprised that they got involved in this march. I've never met a group of less motivated, uninterested students in my life. At least they're doing something...ANYTHING...just do something. Good for them.

 

are you tryina say you have a heart? i dont believe it!

 

i'm a white blonde hair/blue eyed male... mutt. but i think if i were in high school i would have joined these marches too, just to get out of class with no penalty. i wonder how many of them were actually protesting the new bill, how many went just cause a friend went, and how many went just for the fact that they don't want to be in class.

 

That's a good point. I'm probably giving them too much credit.

 

A lot of hispanic kids for my school want to do the same walk out of school thing later this week. But from what I hear a lot of people are just gonna use it as an excuse to skip school. It was kind of obvious when they told me they wanted to go to the mall.

 

Amen.

 

There is a big difference between authorities searching someone and authorities checking immigration status of a person. INS agents have the authority to verify the legal status of a suspected illegal immigrant. Otherwise why have an immigration service?

And I believe a rally for illegal immigrants just might turn up said illegal immigrants. If you don't see probable cause then you must be blind.

Also, the "right to protest"? If they are here illegally they don't have the right to protest! They don't have the right to be here at all! Don't you understand that? If they want to be entitled to the rights in this country afforded to citizens and legal residents, they must come here LEGALLY.

 

OK.
I am looking to see what this bill is really about

Highlights of immigration proposals in Congress



SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE'S BILL

•Allows illegal immigrants who were in the U.S. before 2004 to continue working legally for six years if they pay a $1,000 fine and clear a criminal background check. They would become eligible for permanent residence upon paying another $1,000 fine, any back taxes and having learned English.
•New immigrants would have to have temporary work visas. They also could earn legal permanent residence after six years.
•Adds up to 14,000 new Border Patrol agents by 2011 to the current force of 11,300 agents.
•Authorizes a "virtual wall" of unmanned vehicles, cameras and sensors to monitor the U.S.-Mexico border.
•Creates a special guest worker program for an estimated 1.5 million immigrant farm workers, who can also earn legal permanent residency.


SENATE MAJORITY LEADER BILL FRIST'S PROPOSAL


•Requires all employers to verify the identity and immigration status of their employees through an electronic system.
•Assesses civil penalties of between $500 and $20,000 against employers for each illegal immigrant they hire and criminal penalties of up to $20,000 per illegal immigrant hired and up to six months in jail for engaging in a pattern of employing illegal workers.
•More than doubles the number of employment-based green cards, from 140,000 to 290,000, and makes more employment-based visas available to unskilled workers. It also would free up other visas by exempting immediate relatives of U.S. citizens from being counted in the annual pool of 480,000 visas, and increase country-by-country ceilings on family-sponsored and employment-based immigrants.
•Cancels visas of immigrants who have overstayed their visas and requires them to return to their home country to undergo additional screening at U.S. consulates.
•Makes it a misdemeanor crime for an immigrant to be in the country illegally.
•Increases the number of visas available for high-tech workers.


HOUSE BILL PASSED IN DECEMBER


•Requires all employers to use within six years a database to verify Social Security numbers of employees or face civil or criminal penalties for hiring illegal workers.
•Requires mandatory detention for all non-Mexican illegal immigrants arrested at ports of entry or at land and sea borders.
•Establishes mandatory sentences for smuggling illegal immigrants and for re-entering the US. illegally after deportation.
•Makes illegal presence in the country a felony.
•Makes a drunken driving conviction a deportable offense.
•Requires building fences along 700 miles of the border between Mexico and the U.S.
•Does not address President Bush's proposed guest worker program for illegal immigrants already in U.S.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/3752296.html

 

A person isn't suspected of being illegal without probable cause. That is the way the founding fathers of the United States deemed this country should work. Attending a protest isn't probably cause that somebody is illegal. That is especially true given the right to assemble that we have in this country.

Claiming that attending a rally for an issue is probable cause of illegal status, is absurd. That is true at any time, and especially true when the protestors are school children.

I find it interesting that you openly oppose the spirit and the law of the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION yet call others un-American in the true sense of the word.

Yes the right to protest. That is part of what the right to assemble mentioned in the first amendment is all about.