Doesn't the fact that Andy got busted by the same witness enhance that witnesses cred? it does to me. I don't know. But I do know that Roger's strategy to enhance his credibilty has thus far been based on strategically omitting the truth about McNamee in his intial denial and on a secretly taped phone conversation. If one has nothing to hide it helps to not keep intentionally hiding things in order to prove it, don't you agree?
This is the Pettitte section of the Mitchell Report: Andy Pettitte Andy Pettitte is a pitcher who since 1995 has played with two teams in Major League Baseball, the New York Yankees (10 seasons) and the Houston Astros (3 seasons). He has been named to the All-Star team twice and was Most Valuable Player in the 2001 American League Championship Series. McNamee began serving as Pettitte’s personal trainer and started assisting Pettitte in off-season workouts after the 1999 season. According to McNamee, during the 2001-02 offseason, Pettitte asked him about human growth hormone. McNamee said that he discouraged Pettitte from using human growth hormone at that time. From April 21 to June 14, 2002, Pettitte was on the disabled list with elbow tendonitis.395 McNamee said that Pettitte called him while Pettitte was rehabilitating his elbow in Tampa, where the Yankees have a facility, and asked again about human growth hormone. Pettitte stated that he wanted to speed his recovery and help his team. McNamee traveled to Tampa at Pettitte’s request and spent about ten days assisting Pettitte with his rehabilitation. McNamee recalled that he injected Pettitte with human growth hormone that McNamee obtained from Radomski on two to four occasions. Pettitte paid McNamee for the trip and his expenses; there was no separate payment for the human growth hormone. According to McNamee, around the time in 2003 that the BALCO searches became public, Pettitte asked what he should say if a reporter asked Pettitte whether he ever used performance enhancing substances. McNamee told him he was free to say what he wanted, but that he should not go out of his way to bring it up. McNamee also asked Pettitte not to mention his name. McNamee never discussed these substances with Pettitte again. After the 2001 season, Pettitte, like Clemens, continued to use McNamee’s services and to serve as a source of income after McNamee was dismissed by the Yankees. In a 2006 article, Pettitte “acknowledged an ongoing relationship” with McNamee. Pettitte was quoted as having said that he still talked to McNamee about once a week. “Mac has trained me professionally for a long time, and I’ll continue to use Mac,” Pettitte said.396 In order to provide Pettitte with information about these allegations and to give him an opportunity to respond, I asked him to meet with me; he declined. No mention of steroids - just the 2-4 times of HGH.
I'm assuming you have made your own mind which is fine. But so far McNamee has been on target with his recount of various encounters, you are foolish to believe that he is totally making things up. If you were facing jail time, I sure your gonna start singing like a canary. If you don't think this is PR posturing, why did it take a whole week+ for Roger to have a news conference?!? Why appear on 60 minutes?!? You know he was being prepped on what to say / not say. So lets wait and see what is said in Congress, which I'll bet will be alot of "I can't comment..."
He didn't lie about him using performance enhancing drugs. Who's in a better position to know about what Andy took - Andy or the trainer who mixed up the shots and administerd them? edit: never mind, see above.
I don't think taking time to get advice on how to handle the matter is proof of anything other than having half a brain.
Actually I haven't. I have no idea if he did or did not take steroids. I'm just not assuming he did. I was bothered by the Mitchell Report, generally, for this very reason. Because as long as it's in the Mitchell Report, it doesn't have to be supported. It can be the claims of one guy and it gets put in...and then the media runs with it like it's gospel truth. And if you're accused, it doesn't matter if you did it or not...because you'll never be able to prove a negative (that you didn't do it) and everyone will instantly assume you did it.
I can't believe Roger hired the guy after this incident... ________ The records released Tuesday by the St. Petersburg police show McNamee was suspected of raping a woman he had met at the Renaissance Vinoy Resort in October 2001. The Yankees were in town to close out the regular season against the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, and many players and support staff were staying at the upscale resort. McNamee was having sex with the woman in the resort's pool and didn't stop when confronted by security, the documents say. Police were notified. When they arrived, they found McNamee had helped the woman out of the pool and get dressed, according to the documents. Groggy and incoherent, she was taken to the hospital, where the documents said she was found to have GHB, the "date-rape drug," in her system. The woman told detectives she could not remember details of the encounter in the pool. She said she did not give McNamee permission to have sex with her, and witnesses told detectives they had heard her saying "no" during the encounter, according to the documents. Detectives later recovered some of her jewelry, an empty beer can and a water bottle containing GHB at the side of the pool. Police interviewed McNamee hours later, according to the documents, and he denied having sex with the woman or knowing Yankees batting practice pitcher, Charles Wonsowicz, who was also in the pool. McNamee refused to submit a saliva sample for DNA analysis, the documents said. Although the state attorney's office decided not to press charges, the accusations ended McNamee's career with the Yankees. The Yankees did not give a specific reason for terminating McNamee. Clemens then hired McNamee as his personal trainer. According to the pitcher's lawsuit, McNamee told him that his actions were "actually a life-saving attempt." http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/01/08/mcnamee.lawsuit.ap/index.html
And round and round we go: NEW YORK -- A lawyer for Brian McNamee called on Congress to demand and make public the recording of a December interview between his client and two private investigators hired by Roger Clemens' attorneys. A lawsuit filed Sunday by Clemens against his former trainer contains what appears to be an excerpt of the interview, which took place Dec. 12. That was one day before the release of the Mitchell report, in which McNamee accused Clemens of using steroids and human growth hormone. "They should ask for the entire tape of the interview back in December. That's the tape they should ask for," Earl Ward, one of McNamee's lawyers, said Tuesday. "According to Brian, they tried to get him to recant. Brian said, look, what I told the [Mitchell and federal] investigators was the truth." http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3187302
This is what kills me. Where did Bonds says what he put in his body was steroids, or that someone shot him up with roids and he thought they were giving him something else? Isn't his trainer doing time...and has yet to say he gave Bonds anything? What evidence is there against Barry, besides the he said/she said stuff? If you are going to judge based on he said/she said then do it both ways....
Roger is trying to smear McNamee, but all it is going to do is make him look worse. It is a he said/he said type of deal..... Some will believe Roger others Brian.... I fall into the Roger is a liar camp. DD
I would love for Roger to be innocent but his team of lawyers/PR is running the standard play for all of this and it comes across so orchestrated. That's why I'm leaning on the liar camp especially the B-12/novacane thing . Again, I would be surprised if he's says anything at the Congressional meeting. It's a dangerous game Roger's team is playing, because this could blow up in their face if McNamee actually has some evidence or other witnesses to back his story. (aka Marion Jones, she denied and denied, opps...)
If he actually had some evidence or other witnesses I'm guessing the multi-million dollar Mitchell Report would have uncovered it. Instead it took down the testimony who is already known by authorities to be a guy who lies to save his ass. By the way...I'm guessing if you had Roger's money and all this were on the line for you, you'd be hiring and taking advice from a guy like Rusty Hardin, as well. I don't know why you think it's a standard play. He went on 60 Minutes...he invited in the press to ask whatever they wish...and he's going to testify before Congress.
i know next to nothing about lawsuits, so what purpose does one with no intention of any monetary gain serve?
