Her bigger fans, her closest friends and her family stood up and cheered at the "displays" you didn't like. And you called them morons for it. With fans like that... Well, you know the rest.
If you think everyone at that funeral was a friend of CSK then you are more nieve then I thought. If you also didn't think that there were liberal PLANNERS into the crowd that would react like they did, then again you are more nieve then then I thought.
And had the family members and assorted friends of the Kings believed that it was disrespectful and/or inappropriate, they certainly would have called Carter and the minister out on it. Instead, they applauded. The only people who were insulted by these comments seem to be people who don't think Bush deserves any criticism at all. If the family had come out and said they were insulted or disrespected, I would be squarely on their side, as I am now.
This water tight logic did not stop W from showing and speaking. W was there getting his politics on. So were the other prezs. All were whores. BTW, isn't it protocol for the president to send the vice-president to funerals?
Her "bigger" fans? TWO people, who had their OWN agenda, spoke up. THOSE were the people I thought disrespected the service. I typically respect what you have to say, but not this time. You're going off the deep end. So you're saying if you share MORE of her current beliefs, then you are a bigger fan? Completely ignorant statement.
Svpernaut, if you think CSK's friends, family and fellow fighters in her causes needed prompting from "liberal" handlers to cheer speeches denouncing the Bush administration, you're considerably more "nieve" than I am. The Kings, more than probably any other major American figures, embodied liberal ideals. They fought hard fights for those ideals in which they were consistently and doggedly opposed by people like you and George Bush. And now you guys want a piece of her legacy even while Bush does everything he can to undo that legacy and you do everything you can to cheer him on. And we're supposed to listen to lectures from you, Drudge, O'Reilly and other enemies of CSK's core causes on what would have been appropriate at her funeral? Where inappropriateness is concerned that is off the freaking charts.
And if anyone who knew CSK, much less her family, had complained, then you would have a point and your conspiracy theory about the "liberal PLANNERS" (did you mean "plants'?) might hold some water. As it is, this opinion is inane.
Batman said that her bigger fans "stood up and cheered," not that they made statements. That is really the larger point here. Two people made politically charged statements at which, the people who knew and loved CSK gave a STANDING OVATION!!! The people who knew and loved CSK apparently thought the comments were absolutely appropriate. That is all I need to know.
Zombie-parrot would be way too generous in your case given your history. I don't know if you'd get the "Brains-Brains-Brains" chant right.
i guess the president of the united states would have been better off not going? even the biggest haters here know that if the president didnt show up, then it would have been EVEN WORST for him publicly. i think he showed up because he wanted to show Kanye West he cared!
It's still not the 'civil' thing to do (pun intended). If either Bush were to die in 5 years, and Hillary Clinton were to become president and thus the two Clintons were forced to sit there and listen at his funeral, would you think it perfectly acceptable if a few Bush minions felt like spewing long vitriolic diatribes like "he stood for morality, not like those who engaged in shady dealings like Whitewater, or used positions of power to have sex with subordinates who could unfairly benefit from that relationship. He was also patriotic and would never do things like sell influence to the highest bidder in the form of coffees at the White House or using the Chinese government to illegally fund their election warchests". None of those statements is provably false (even if many on this board would categorize them as dubious, just as many Americans probably thought the funeral extrapolations to be just as dubious). And the Bush family would probably agree with the implications of that rhetoric, just as the King family agreed with the rhetoric presented at the funeral. So what is the difference between the two? (assuming for a moment that the Bush family would allow this callousness to occur at the funeral) Anytime either side does this, it only serves to debase us all, and divides us further rather than bring us together. Don't use as an excuse that it's been done once in a while on high-profile occasions where people thought it politically expedient, and therefore it should always be. There are plenty of other forums for disagreement we can use to express our outrage or indignation. Funerals are occasions where differences are put aside, grudges forgot, and respect and remembrance shown to the deceased. If an ex-husband shows up with humility and respect to his former wife's funeral, does that feel 'right' to you that the wife's family should feel free to browbeat him at the ceremony for his past transgressions? The King family (and Carter) has every right to do what they did...but it doesn't make it the right thing to do.
Nice post. Batman and his merry band of liberals only support these types of things when it suits them politically.
Prove it. I would see no problem with speakers talking about conservative ideology or politics at the funeral of a conservative politician. I love the feigned outrage by the conservatives here and in the press. You mean to tell me that people would speak about not just politics, but liberal politics at the funeral of one of the most foremost liberal (anti-war, pro-gay marriage, pro-civil rights, socialist) activists in the US? It would have been disrespectful to ignore everything she fought for in life, not to bring it up.
nice try but... WRONG! as history is sure to prove, there is nothing clinton ever did that remotely resembles the unamerican, fascistic ****bombs that dubya has dropped on our great country. got me a movie i want you to know slicing up eyeballs i want you to know girlie so groovy i want you to know don't know about you but i am un chien andalusia i am un chien andalusia i am un chien andalusia i am un chien andalusia wanna grow up to be be a debaser, (debaser) debaser, (debaser) debaser, (debaser) debaser, (debaser) debaser, (debaser) debaser, (debaser) got me a movie ha ha ha ho slicing up eyeballs ha ha ha ho girlie so groovie ha ha ha ho don't know about you but i am un chien andalusia i am un chien andalusia i am un chien andalusia i am un chien andalusia (debaser), debaser (debaser), debaser (debaser), debaser (debaser), debaser (debaser), debaser (debaser), debaser
really? I don't think anyone would go there because by that time, everything that Clinton did is nothing compared to everything that Bush has done..
