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Civil War Back on Again in Iraq, W is Bolivianous

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Mar 29, 2008.

  1. LouisianaRocket

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    And we impeached Clinton for his situation? Wow, we really have our priorities messed up here in America.
     
  2. SamFisher

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  5. Refman

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    Objection, relevance.

    Does CNN running another story mean that the battle today did not happen?

    Does it mean that the dead are actually alive and well, eating a snow cone?

    The fact that you feel compelled to throw a reply out there that is so far off topic is simply befuddling.
     
  6. Nice Rollin

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    lol......clueless americans
     
  7. glynch

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    No it means that the neo-con version of how to run the US and the role of the media is more like Soviet Russia's or even Sadam's Iraq than that of the traditional US. Just have the press lie if necessary to make the war always appear successful or at the minimum don't report anything that does not make it look like "mission accomplished" at all times.
     
  8. Refman

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    No offense, but this is just dumb.

    Yes glynch, the US is just like Soviet Russia...in fact, I believe that the KGB is on their way to your house right now for making those statements. That is what would have happened in the USSR. I'm sure that government rapists are on their way to your house to spend some time with your wife. That is what would have happened in Saddam's Iraq.

    Not even comparable to anybody who is even mildly in touch with reality.
     
  9. rimrocker

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    basso just knows that any change in Iraq policy will come only because a Dem will be President. He's celebrating because Penn's resignation makes it much more likely Obama will be that President.
     
  10. glynch

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    In rereading my post I did mispeak. I did not mean to say that the US is just like Iraq or Russia; just that the idea that the media should only report stories that show success and suppress those that show setbacks in our war would be like the media policies of those countries
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    What's going on now in Iraq makes me wonder again whether there is anything the US can do to prevent a bloodbath there.
     
  12. underoverup

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    this was a top story in the nyt, well that's where i read it anyway online. sadr seems to be controlling the peace in iraq right now which is not a good thing for the surge supporters.
     
  13. Refman

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    Short answer...no.

    I wholly believe that when we eventually do leave, there will be a civil war.
     
  14. Phillyrocket

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    Wow speechless, I thought that in this day in age there was no longer an exscuse to be this ignorant. Then I remember that this is America...
     
  15. Surfguy

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    Apparently, Al Sadr thinks he and his Medhi army are going to run Iraq. So, his priority is getting the US to abandon and leave Iraq...so he can take over. He also claims to be on the brink of sending the Medhi army into full scale war. I'm sure he has no problem sending countless Iraqis to their deaths while he hangs out in Iran. If he thinks that they can make us leave Iraq by unleashing the Medhi army on us (and the Iraqi govt), then I'm afraid he is sorely mistaken. The only thing this is going to do is cause a blood bath. There is no possible way for them to force us out of Iraq. He should have stuck to keeping his army in check and participating in the elections. Now, he probably won't even be able to participate. I mean...we are trying to ensure a stable Iraq as a precedent before we even think about drawing down or leaving. Yet, he is going against this so he must think he can force us to leave. Big mistake.

    I don't know who this guy thinks he is...but if he wants to sacrifice Iraqis to meet his goal...then I guess there is no way to stop this. On the other hand, he is pretty good with empty rhetoric as well. He claimed to strike a deal to keep the peace. Yet, he now threatens to ruin that very peace and ruin the security gains. It makes little sense to me. He obviously has his own interests in mind and not the interests of Iraq. I would like to see his stupid little army try to keep Iraq secure if we left them now. Idiot.
     
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    not good --

    Gunmen kill Sadrist official in Iraq

    AGHDAD - Iraqi officials say gunmen have killed a senior aide to anti-U.S. cleric Muqtada al-Sadr in the Shiite holy city of Najaf.


    The officials say Riyadh al-Nouri was the director of al-Sadr's office in Najaf. He was shot to death as he drove home after attending Friday prayers in the nearby city of Kufa.

    A policeman and an official in al-Sadr's Najaf office confirmed the killing but spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to disclose the information.

    The anti-U.S. cleric has his headquarters in Najaf, but the shrines in that city are dominated by a rival Shiite group and most of his followers are concentrated in Kufa.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080411/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

    more --

    Police imposed an indefinite curfew in the shrine city following the shooting, Mustafa added.

    Sadr aide Haider al-Turfi said the gunmen were waiting for Nuri, 37, near his home in the city's eastern Al-Adala neighbourhood.

    "When he arrived from the prayers, they opened fire on him, killing him instantly," Turfi said.
     
  17. Rashmon

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    I think what the situation in Southern Iraq confirmed was that Muqtada al Sadr's voluntary cease-fire had more to do with the reduction in violence in Iraq than the "escalation" aka "surge."

    When he decides to let it rip, and that time appears to be coming soon, it will be the Iraqi war equivalent to the Tet Offensive in Vietnam.
     

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