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Civil liberties and Pizza

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by jisangNY1, Apr 4, 2006.

  1. jisangNY1

    jisangNY1 Member

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    This is from the ACLU website dealing with what our future could look like with all our civil liberties being taken away from us. To order something as simple as a pizza could prove to be a nightmare in the future.



    Surveillance Campaign

    The government and corporations are aggressively collecting information about your personal life and your habits. They want to track your purchases, your medical records, and even your relationships. The Bush Administration's policies, coupled with invasive new technologies, could eliminate your right to privacy completely. Please help us protect our privacy rights and prevent the Total Surveillance Society.

    http://www.aclu.org/pizza/
     
  2. Invisible Fan

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    A lot of countries in Europe already have sophisticated systems of public surveilance and data mining in place. Those same societies are hailed as liberal and free-thinking...

    I think this is inevitable, and it'll be passed off as a great benefit of convenience and customizablity for consumers. However, the approach itself will be more subtle....

    Amazon implements an AI system using Bayesian statistics to "suggest" products you might like based on your history. These might become scary and lifelike in the degree of accuracy to the point where it's all done with impersonal computers. In the end, there will be a lot of us complicit in voiding our privacy from that click of a button.
     
  3. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Why would the government allow a pizza place access to their database enabling them to see what travel plans you have made and what clothes you shop for? This whole video is nonsense.
     
  4. mc mark

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    I ordered a Dominos pizza last night during the game. Didn't have to give them any information except what I wanted to order. Just from caller ID they knew my address and how I liked my pizza. It’s kind of weird.
     
  5. nyquil82

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    Oh, so that's why the papa johns guy raped me. He wanted a fecal sample for the government. He also took my wallet, stupid government!!!
     
  6. MadMax

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    based on information you willingly gave them the last time you ordered pizza. i don't have a problem with that.
     
  7. A-Train

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    Yeah, it's pretty sad that you can't pull the old "order a pizza to somebody else's house" prank any more...
     
  8. mc mark

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    No I realize that Max. But it's still strange.
     
  9. MadMax

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    they did it for me at WingZone the other day. i gave them my phone number and they took a guess at my order based on what i ordered last time. they were wrong...i wanted something different.

    as i say, i don't have a problem with that at all. they're tracking their customer base and preferences.
     
  10. RocketMan Tex

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    They did it for me at Honey Baby Escort Service a couple of weeks ago....

    Oh wait. Wrong Thread. Sorry!

    ;) :D
     
  11. Ottomaton

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    How would you feel if they shared all the data and put it in some mega-database that people could buy into?

    I see that as the inevitable conclusion.

    My college roommate used to give out a different fake name for transaction like magazines or takeout that asked for one. It is interesting to see how those names used to crop up in strange places.

    If they don't have a clear privacy policy, such as you would find on a website, some executive will realize that they can make an extra buck by selling the info and will feel compelled to do it.

    Then of course, the government will get in on it. A database flag will notice that you've been sudently buying a whole bunch of stuff in a bad part of town, and decide to flag you as a potential crackhead.
     
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    good question. i'm not sure how i'd feel about it. maybe i'd stop ordering over the phone...or just stop frequenting those places.

    with the businesses i've seen doing it, i'm not that concerned. i'm not adamant about my right to privacy with regard to pizza toppings or wing flavors. because i'm calling an absolute stranger at this establishment to tell them what i want over the phone, anyway.
     
  13. rhester

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    Let's see... people I trust my personal information with;

    1. wife (totally)
    2. church
    3. doctor
    4. clutchfans
    5. pizza guy
    6. google
    7. schools
    8. credit bureau
    9. banks
    10. government

    Hey, pizza guy is pretty high on my list. ;)
     
  14. across110thstreet

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    you live in New York City, where you can find some of the worlds finest pizza. You ordered Domino's...

    Debate...

    Discuss...
     
  15. mc mark

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    I know...I'm a loser....

    I lost my Alba's menu! ;)
     
  16. MadMax

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    if she owns a pizza place, i'm ordering. check that...i'll go pick it up.
     
  17. Mr. Brightside

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    C'mon, we all know Chicago has the world's best pizza.
     

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