Chuck Hayes has a much better nose for the ball than Stro and is alot more physical which I like, but no way he is better than Stro. Once Hayes gets 10 to 15 games under his belt, teams will start to exploit his weaknesses like they have done with Head. Stro was playing very well before he got hurt and I still want to see him along side Yao. Other than that I think Hayes has made this team with Mutombo, Baxter and Bowen getting hurt in the minutes department. Hayes brings a physical toughness that this team has been lacking and he is a better than average on the ball defender. Big question is how good is his jumpshot.
Rockets should look to keep Hayes and Lucas. The Rockets should try to make a trade: Give up on Stro, Moochie, DA, and Barry.
I haven't passed my judgement on either player yet, but why are there so many people conveniently forgetting that Stromile was playing pretty well before the injury?
wow, so simple but it speaks volumes. the only difference is the rockets didn't give swift a contract that makes him untradeable or forces them to play him. the thing about Hayes is that if he keeps up the rebounding, I know he won't average 11, but if he stays consistent on the boards he's gonna be a perfect compliment to Yao.
People there are other moves that are going to have to made in order to keep Hayes. I think we need to keep Hayes and Lucas and cut Mooch and Bowen
How is Chuck Hayes like K. Thomas? KT was quite a blackhole.....and to a certain extent so was Mo........if anything, he's like a shorter version of Otis Thorpe, solid offensive rebounder....
Honestly, when I look at Hayes I see.........a basketball player - a SMART player for that matter. He doesn't just rebound - he grabs the board and then moves it to another player QUICKLY. He does NOT give up when someone else APPEARS tp have grabbed the rebound. His position is fantastic. If you read his bio when he came out, scouts raved on the kids instincts and awareness. Stromile has trouble picking up this system even though he did appear to make some strides lately. The thing about Stro is that he's SO VERY athletic that he should just run around like a crazy man worse case scenario. He doesn't really play smart - he plays athletically. Reaction time is slower and some of the opportunites pass before his great athleticism reacts to it. Thus, a smarter player may 'see' what will happen and anticipates it. If you measure your pinky finger that's about the length that Hayes would need to be considered a TRUE Power Forward. I've just never bought into that 'size' stuff. Smart players with SOME skills will almost ALWAYS beat dumb players with lots of skills. The NBA is infested with horrifically stupid skill players. Guys like Head and Hayes show signs of having that sense of how to play. I hate to use Stevie, (Well, not really!! but Stevie is a player that has no basketball smarts. I think guys like that eventually peak. Nobody doubles Steve, nobody worries about him beating them anymore, he'll never see another all-star game because he's just pretty much peaked mentally an physically. Some guys will not peak until they peak physically - mentally they keep getting better. TMAC is better now mentally than he ever has been. Yao, I think, will be like this too. As for Hayes, I'm not ready to declare him anything other than a REALLY smart player. He simply can NOT be as good now as he will become. Why? Because he's smart - he knows he'll have to get better physically. Jeff told him what he needed from him when he got on the court - hayes remembered it and simply did exactly what the coach asked. Period. He played a role and has played it well. For now, I think we should be more optimistic than not that he may indeed be a diamond in the rough. As for moves, I've been hearing nothing - as if there not looking to bring anyone in and are not taking any feelers. Could a trade of nothing happen? You'd have to get quite a bit of nothing to make that fit under the cap! Zero is going on from what I hear - a big zero!
i just mean that CH seems to be a really hard worker like KT, a little undersized always hustling and fighting and SS seems to be stoned like MT most of the time.
hmmm who is a big man with zero for a number.. or is the big zero ron artest Doc are you starting with your games again.
no kidding, one guy was just putting up all-star numbers last season, was an NBA all-star and the other is a bust. Amen people's hate for steve leads them to write some of the stupidest statements I've ever read on the internet. if you agree with that post so much don't you think its time to change your signature.
I was "AMENing" more to the SMART play of Hayes than anything else. And how it relatest to his success on the court since he isnt the most physically gifted player out there. I was ambivilent towards the Francis parts of the post as I am sure those are the parts that YOU are taking issues to. Whatever. As for Stromile, if you have read my posts you know that I havent given up on Stromile. I still feel he could be a big help to this team. But I freely admit that Stromile's lack of "physical play" limits him, and is something this team needs and thus Hayes provides a lift here.
Reggie a great rebounder - a very solid one and if little Hayes can be as consistent at the height of Reggie's game then we are blessed. But the reason I sought this post is to point out that lil Hayes is better offensive player now than Reg ever was. I am talking about foot work, offensive moves and FT shooting. This is based on what I saw from his days as a K_Wild_Cat and the vid we saw from the summer league games as well. That said he is a lil smaller than Reg though.
Swift is athletically gifted. I believe that he has a mental disability of some kind. I don't think he is lacks intelligence. He either suffers from a learning disorder, like ADHD or dyslexia, OR he is stuggling with a drug/alcohol problem, OR he has emotional issues (anxiety, depression,etc.) Maybe none of these, but there IS something wrong, and surely the Rockets are exploring this, maybe at the present time. Basketballwise, Swift has major hops, but he doesn't seem to elevate as fast as Hayes. He seems to lack "timing," something that Hayes exhibits naturally. His lateral quickness is better, but his "instincts" aren't. They are a different kind of player. Swift is frustrating, but I wouldn't give up on him yet. Hayes is an exciting prospect that deserves to be retained and developed. He may turn out to be more than a role player, maybe not.
The thing about Chuck Hayes is he sets some great picks for Mcgrady. I counted at least 5 jumpers Mcgrady made off Chuck Hayes picks. When you can make Mcgrady a better player, unpack your bags, you'll be around for awhile.
Hayes has a much better feel for the game, that's all. Stro has the physical ability, not to mention a great 18-footer, but he throws the ball away, turns easy layups into missed dunks, and can't get good position for rebounds. You wonder if Stro's basketball IQ will ever go up - it should've happened by now at this point in his career. Not to kick a man while he's down, but Bowen should never, ever get any minutes if we have both Swift and Hayes.
