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Chronicle Starting to Turn on McGrady?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by emjohn, Dec 3, 2008.

  1. abc2007

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    The nba players earn money form customers!

     
  2. Shaud

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    I know that. I wanted him to play through it but if he feels rehabbing it off the court for 3 weeks without playing is the route then I will trust and hope he is making the right decision. He gutted it out for the 1st month of a tough schedule and now he's resting a little. I don't want him to do it but he is doing that. Might as well deal with it.
     
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    Unfortunately <1% of people on this board know who JR Richard was or what "injury," you're referencing.
     
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    Artest apparently has said the same thing about resting once Barry and McGrady can come back. I don't hear anything about that. Just incredible.
     
  5. Shaud

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    I didn't know Artest said that, but you know people on here would not make a big deal about it. They would just say he deserves it because he plays tough defense. :rolleyes:
     
  6. verse

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    was it not obvious to you that his knee was hindering his play?? seriously.

    I know the docs said he could play through it, but if he isn't feeling any improvement, then isn't it prudent to take the rehab time? I mean, aren't we playing for june and not december?

    I've never heard of an injury that would improve by playing on it, have you? what I'm reading is the docs indicating there is no structural damage, just soreness, and that he could play through it w/o damaging it more. that is NOT saying that it would improve it. likely, only time will do that. so, if his game is hindered (obviously) doesn't the time off make sense?

    how many times have u seen someone injure themselves by overcompensating from another injury? plenty. I don't want to see that. if 3 weeks of rehab allow mac 2 get healthy, I say go for it.
     
  7. heypartner

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    Are you saying he told the truth before, but is lying now?

    btw: wasn't that quote in Orlando based on them wanting TMac to sit the rest of the season in their tanking quest for the #1 pick to grab Howard. He stopped playing in March.
     
  8. badgerfan

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    Best case scenario it's a distraction. Worst case McGrady's unhappy with the coaching staff/management/whatever. The fact that the Chronicle reported that the Rockets organization was surprised to hear that McGrady was going to be out for three weeks isn't encouraging.

    Either way the Rockets wouldn't be having this problem if he'd been traded to Detroit in the off-season.
     
  9. EssTooKayTD

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    Ya, I read it in another post. I think it's in the Francis related thread. Artest is basically pretty hobbled by his ankle (obviously). He stated that he might take a break once Barry and McGrady get back. I mean this is a very loose interpretation of it. Not sure where the quote came from.
     
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    From what I can tell the consensus medical opinion is that there's no injury--just lack of strength and conditioning.

    Bottom line is that McGrady is disagreeing with the medical professionals who have cleared him to play and who have prescribed play time as a way to regain his strength and conditioning. The bottom line is that McGrady is disputing the medical opinions he's received with the goal of sitting out games.
     
  11. Aloe

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    It's no use. The T-Mac haters own Clutchfans.
     
  12. jasonemilio

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    He's still a great player, just not one worth a max contract anymore with his health instability and age.
     
  13. t_mac1

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    yes, he just ballhogs. his 7 assists per game in the playoffs have nothing to do with them. if luther/rafer/bobby jackson didn't shoot below 30%, maybe, just maybe he'll have around 9-10.

    tracy simply elevates his game. its not just the scoring, it's the rebounding, the assists, the steals, the blocks, and the defense. he elevates every part of his game.
     
  14. badgerfan

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    And the Houston Chronicle too.
     
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    i don't think he ever said that.

    dr. andrews said he needs to miss ONE WEEK anyways to rehab. and he'll resume playing in another week in EXTREMELY limited minutes.

    tracy wants to rehab for 3 weeks. and when he comes back, you don't need to limit him.

    which case is better? if he's rehabbing as he plays, adelman already said by watching his minutes, it puts your rotation in commotion b/c you have to limit him, which means certain guys' minutes will be out of whack.

    might as well let tracy sit. let ron and others get comfortable. tracy doesn't need his teammates to make him better. he can get in rhythm pretty easily as shown last yr.
     
  16. verse

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    there obviously was an injury. he had surgery on it. the lack of strength & conditioning is expected, as the 6-8 mo rehab prognosis indicated. what I'm saying is that if playing on it isn't making any progress, then maybe targeted rehabilitation is. again, isn't there a distinct chance he could injure something else trying to overcompensate for the pain in the knee? everyone saw him gimping around on the court.

    I would like your (or DaDakota's) response to the questions I asked you originally.
     
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    compared to the Orlando Sentile, the chronicle is full of tmac lovers.

    The Sentile had on the back page of the paper in large lettering

    ME-MAC
    QUITTER
    FRAUD

    numerous times during his time in Orlando

    The papers in Toronto called him a liar and a traitor.
     
  18. t_mac1

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    why would you want to trade your best playoff performer?

    until this team proves it can go on without tracy and someone else elevates their game in the playoffs, tracy is here to stay until his contract runs out.

    we got ron artest. and we still can't win without tracy. you really think morey is that stupid?

    the organization will put up with it b/c they know tracy wants to win. sure he's fragile, but they're gonna put up with it.

    if yao or artest stepped up and take this team by the throat and leads it, sure, the organization may feel differently. but this team, by the past 3 games, still depends on tracy way too much for him to be traded.
     
  19. badgerfan

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    My answer would be that he should probably follow the advice of medical professionals, and that both opinions he got were to play himself back into shape.
     
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    After the 6-8 guard was evaluated by Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala., on Monday, the team released a statement saying Andrews had confirmed the initial medical assessment of Rockets team physician Dr. Tom Clanton that McGrady is suffering from general soreness in his left knee related to his continuing rehabilitation from offseason surgery.

    Is Tmac really hurt? Soreness isn't an injury. You get sore when you start running, weight training, or playing basketball when you are out of shape. It's different from a real injury. In fact if you keep training the soreness goes away as anyone who lifts weights knows. The worst thing to do is to stop training and let time get rid of the soreness.
     

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