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Chronicle Starting to Turn on McGrady?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by emjohn, Dec 3, 2008.

  1. badgerfan

    badgerfan Member

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    This latest episode hasn't exactly made me admire McGrady's heart or desire to play. In terms of what the future holds I would point out that one area of concern for the Rockets and Adelman was that McGrady didn't play that much in the preseason and there was concern that the big three hadn't gotten a chance to mesh and learn one another's game. This latest absence is only going to exacerbate that problem.
     
  2. t_mac1

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    now you're just reaching. so adelman playing him 37mpg last yr even when tracy played had nothing to do with it?

    tracy played to start the year and yao still played big minutes.

    if anything, adelman, along with the chinese team, are the main cause of his injuries.
     
  3. tcadriel

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    Chronicle starting to turn on Mcgrady?

    My question to you guys is this?

    What do you think Tracy's thought was when he opened up the sports page to him being dissed all over? :confused:
     
  4. abc2007

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    If Yao cannot be healthy in playoffs, it will be another 1st round out for the rockets. Of course, I haven't given up my beloved rockets.

    As I said before, I don't mind Tmac play or not. Even the rockets treat him as the knicks treat Marbury, I wouldn't mind.

     
  5. Big MAK

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    Do you actually believe that it's Tracy's fault that Yao got injured last season? Do you know anything about the human body? A couple minutes more a few games wont break you. It would have happened, even if Tracy played every game.
     
  6. Jeff Who

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    'Go to hell BLINEBURY. I will damn show you, just wait 3 weeks.'

    Btw, it really looks UGLY right now.
     
  7. t_mac1

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    you never admire him to begin with. we had the same argument after game 2 v. the jazz last yr and you still put the loss ALL on him, despite not having yao or rafer.

    and despite him putting a near triple double in 3 quarters.

    you speculated that he ruined the team chemistry last yr and wanted him gone during his injury's absence.

    it is what it is. tracy will get his share of critics. you can't change their opinions.
     
  8. abc2007

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    I watched all olympic bball games this summer. I don't think Yao played a lot games. Maybe 6 or 7 in total.

    Adelman played Yao a lot minutes this season because Tmac was not in game shape.

     
  9. t_mac1

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    if we play utah this year with the same team + artest (say if yao's out), i don't know about that.

    we were rafer away from making it a game 7. and if artest just improves a little bit, we're still a great team. the offense would flow smoother around tracy and ron.

    but you def. need yao if we want to have a chance to win it all.
     
  10. abc2007

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    Not just minutes, but intensity.

     
  11. badgerfan

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    I never put all of a loss, or a win for that matter, on one player. This is a team sport, it's not boxing. That said the guy's obviously fallen from superstar status when he can't put up points in the fourth quarter of two critical games.
     
  12. t_mac1

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    tmac started last seaosn in great shape. yao still played 37 minutes a game before tracy got injured.

    adelman just wants yao out there so we don't look too small in the interior and boards. he admitted that.
     
  13. badgerfan

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    He should try reading the comments on the Chronicle's web site, which are overwhelmingly negative.
     
  14. abc2007

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    Rafer is always inconsistent. It's very unlikely for him to play well in all 7 games.

     
  15. t_mac1

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    he's clearly not the player he once was. unfortunately, he's still our best player.

    so deal with it.
     
  16. abc2007

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    Intensity!!!

     
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    Ok, well you are getting to a different argument. We were talking about TMac's lack of success in the playoffs. You and I have a different opinion on that.

    However, if we are talking about the question "Is Tmac performing up to his contract?". Then answer is a resounding no, even factoring in the injury... he's making 20 million dollars a season. You expect him to average 25+ a game. There is no disagreement there. The only thing I have a problem with is the response to this information. Some people scream for him to get traded, they berate the guy constantly for playing under expectations set by his salary. I say whats the point of it all?

    I'm a Rockets fan, and I don't think Rockets fans should talk **** about Rockets players unless there is something they are doing drastically wrong. There really isn't anything Tmac is doing wrong. The only complaint I have about him is that he should go to the basket a little more. But if you factor in that he's injured, you can't really blame him for not being overly aggressive. People are inventing things he's doing wrong... like that he hogs the ball too much. Artest is the one that leads the team in FGAs. And he doesn't hold the ball any longer than Artest and Yao do.

    The way people talk about McGrady here its like you don't even want him on your team. Which is funny, because when he decides to rest his knee for a month you get the same people b****ing because he isn't playing.
     
  18. t_mac1

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    um, have you seen aaron brooks played? he didn't play last year.

    rafer defended deron really well in the first half of game 6. when he went out, deron just went off on bobby.

    we can play without yao. in fact, we would run more of adelman's offense if yao played less.

    but until we sign another big man, adelman's gonna play yao a lot b/c we need a big presence in the paint for defense and rebounding.
     
  19. abc2007

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    I remember Clutch showed Rafer's stats for that half game, and Rafer wasn't good. We could keep the score close in the 1st half actually because of your beloved Tmac.

     
  20. badgerfan

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    If the definition of best player can be stretched to include a guy who's barely shooting 40% and scoring less than 16 ppg the Rockets are in trouble.
     

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