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Chronicle: Basketball now in Swift's court

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Slick Rick, Jul 8, 2005.

  1. NIKEstrad

    NIKEstrad Member

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    Please, let's not go the route of "wink-wink" deals. It'll make this a long offseason.

    And there's a big difference going from a 1 year, 2 million dollar deal to big money vs. going from a 5 year 30 million dollar deal to even more money. Further, given how much money TMac and Yao are guaranteed to be making at that time, you don't guarantee who is being pursued greatly in part because of potential 10 million dollars 6 years from now.
     
  2. RikQuik

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    Why would West do a SnT with the Knicks? Honestly, who do they have that is not on a bad contract and can play? Memphis doesn't need another PF. They could use some backcourt help, and who are they gonna get from the Knicks that would help? Penny? Crawford?

    Nah, West ain't that stupid. Expiring Contracts? What good would that do them? They already have a lot fo young talent that they are going to have to pay in the future, so getting under the cap is not a reality. They don't appear to be in the LT, so that's not a concern.

    Memphis is one of those rare teams who just plain have too much talent, and not enough leadership to go with it yet. IF West does a SnT at all, it will be for a back-up 1 or 2, most probably a good 6th man with fire, and, knowing him, a couple of picks.

    For the future, this is the team everyone should start worrying about. Once the Griz get some leadership, they have the talent to dominate this league.
     
  3. Willis25

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    I really don't think that anyone other than New Orleans is going to end up offering more than Houston for Mr. 9 pts-5rebs

    The Hawks are after Joe Johnson - the Cavs & Nuggets need a shooting guard

    SAR is all but signed with New Jersey

    Marshall is still out there tolling for cash
     
  4. Rockets2K

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    well, all reports have the Grizz looking for some budget cutting...wether or not they can get under the cap or not, they are reportedly wanting to at leastr get closer to it.

    hey Willis, I find it very amusing that you pin EVERY post you make on Swift to the stats of a backup...gee..imagine that!..he only gets 9/5 as a BACKUP to Pau(their franchise player)..Oh.My.God! :rolleyes:

    but I guess it shouldnt surprise me that you dont let logic get in the way of your posting style...
     
  5. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    BINGO! The Knicks will always have this advantage over other teams. To improve talent they can always do S&Ts that other teams would be interested in because they can throw bad contracts at the Knicks and the Knicks will take them.
     
  6. GATER

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    Deuce -
    The end result of that management style is that eventually every player on your roster has a bad contract and that's all you have left to ship out. The Knicks are dangerously close to that condition right now.

    I suppose a case could be made that Tim Thomas' expiring $14m has value but that remains to be seen.
     
  7. swilkins

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    I have a strange feeling Swift is goign to cash in as much as possible and this doesn't mean signing with the Rockets.

    I just hope CD doesn't sit on his hands and let other opportunities slip.

    Do I appear a bit paranoid?
     
  8. mogrod

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    Thank you!

    Mutombo only averaged 5.3 rebounds and 1.26 per game last year, so I suppose that means he is horrible. :rolleyes:
     
  9. wrath_of_khan

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    Nice one R2K!

    Personally, I still can't believe that Indiana went out and got Mr. 4 pts, 3 rebounds a few years ago. AKA Jermaine O'Neal. ;)

    Anyway, I don't have a good feeling about Swift landing here. These negotiations just don't feel right to me. We need to be aggressively pursuing Plan B right now. I don't want to end up with Reggie Sanders and call it an offseason ...
     
  10. HOOP-T

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    Paranoid? No. This is exactly what I think he will do. He'll likely end up staying with his current team.
     
  11. gucci888

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    How in the world do you think he's gonna stay w/ the Grizz? They've pretty much straight cut him loose. They drafted a similar player in Warrick and they don't have any cap space to resign him. They don't have a starting spot for him.

    Swift is done in Memphis, that's for sure.
     
  12. white lightning

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    It's the money- he's not coming here.
     
  13. code9x

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    why don't we just do this?
    offer him the MLE for one year, give him the opportunity to excel, then if he proves to be very successful with the rockets, offer him a better deal.
     
  14. m_cable

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    Dominate the league? Hardly. The current Grizz have no more talent and probably less than any number of Mavs and Kings teams from the past. You need superstars to be dominant. And it doesn't hurt to be able to play defense.
     
  15. m_cable

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    With the probable backup of signing Marshall for a 3 year MLE deal. Which wouldn't be so bad, as long as we aggressively shop those expiring contracts during the season. Every year there are a couple of teams that underacheive and want to dump salary to rebuild (coughBostoncough), or just plain trim salary (I'm looking at you Golden State).
     
  16. Rockets2K

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    to be fair, MEM didnt have a horrible defensive team last year. I dont remember the exact numbers, but I seem to recall they were in the top 10.

    but it doesnt bode well that their superstar is Pau.
    When you got a star like him, you better have some damn good role players. ;)

    preparing for a furious MemX rebuttal :D
     
  17. yobod

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    it's not as easy as you think. stro won't risk doing a one year tryout deal if he can get something long term and for say 7-9 million a year now. if he signs a one year with the rockets and play starter minutes and sucks it up, no team will sign him for much next year. and from the rockets standpoint, if he plays starter minutes and blows up he'd want a max contract next year from whatever team offers it. right now he's in an interesting situation because contracts are offered based solely on his potetial and not his production. lock him in when we still can. I'd say give him 3 years at the mle with the raises that come from year to year. if he doesn't pan out we have a cato-esque player to fill at the 4 and it'll give us 3 years to find a replacement. and also with a 3 year deal it gives swift 2 years to produce and we could use him as an expiring contract his last year in a trade
     
  18. rodrick_98

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    "It's always going to come down to money..."

    alteast he's honest, and isn't leading us on like beltran did with the astros last winter.
     
  19. Relativist

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    the CBA doesn't work that way. For teams over the salary cap, only those that have had a player for three years or more can offer more that player more than the MLE. Stro would have to sign with us for three years before we could give him a raise.
     
  20. forchette49

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    But with all the expiring contracts, would we then be under the cap enough to offer the extension next offseason?
     

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