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Chronic: Time to make the Rockets' FA shopping list

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets34Legend, May 7, 2008.

  1. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    all good points. i was just pointing out that those were probably the best options via trade.

    i think our most likely senarios for adding wing talent are through FA. there's plenty available and it's a buyers market on them this summer.

    big guys are usually overpaid and so why sign one now? we could use our expirings on taking one off someone else's hands.
     
  2. michecon

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    Chron articles look more and more like this bbs posts.
     
  3. saleem

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    Right on! A 5 star comment from you.
     
  4. vstexas09

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    jr smith will not run according to RA's gameplan


    and u still want to keep luther??

    keep brooks, harris, novak, francis, get rid of jackson... then reconsider who u want to get..
     
  5. bfurlough

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    I believe the rockets should pursue Antwan Jamison.However, I'm not sure what kind of money he's after. He can play the 3 and 4, sometimes 5 when we go small. He brings that Lamar Odom/Shawn Marion versatility that most teams covet. He can post up, shoot the 3, and run on the break. I'm not sure what kind of rebounder he is or more importantly, defender. I'd like to see Rafer, Mac, Jamison, Scola, and Yao as a starting line-up.

    As a back-up center, I believe the Rockets MUST get Francisco Elson. We all saw what he was able to do to Yao when he played in San Antonio. I doubt he'll cost much plus he has a decent 10-15 jumper and can rebound.

    Well that's my two cents. Reply away. It's my first post. :)
     
  6. HTownTmac1

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    good ideas. but where does battier go? in my opinion id rather mike miller to come off the bench. for tmac. or when battier comes out put miller at the two and tmac at the three.

    as for elson, your right about him... but either him or diop and id be happy.
    and a good backup point guard.
     
  7. bfurlough

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    I think Battier has to come off the bench in most situations. I think we give him 20-25 a game depending on match-ups. Obviously you give him more when playing Kobe, Hamilton, etc. Battier is just too much of an offensive liability.

    As far as a point guard, the rox should either develop brooks or go after a pg with size( most likely the draft). Bobby more than likely won't be here next season.

    I would love to see steve come in for mac is he can be somewhat healthy. I dont see us getting miller to come off the bench although it would be ideal.
     
  8. DrNuegebauer

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    Jamison hasn't really played the 3 in a good number of years. He plays the 4, and is a real mismatch for opposition defences in that spot.

    Trouble with Jamison is that he is too slow to guard a lot of 3s, and the bigger 4s back him down too far. He's better defensively against the 4s - because he has quick hands - but nobody is mistaking him for an elite defender!

    Jamison's the totally wrong player - sorry!
     
  9. DrNuegebauer

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    :confused:

    How does someone become and 'offensive liability' in your mind? Is it if they can't create their own shot?

    Battier is a 'spacing player' who is a career 10.3 ppg scorer and 39% 3pt shooter.

    That's not an offensive liability - but it's not a main scorer either. He's not going to CREATE shots for himself, but he's not going to let his defender sag off and clog up the lane either!

    Battier is the perfect 3 AS LONG as we get another scoring 2/3 to go alongside him. He could play 16 minutes alongside TMac and 16 minutes alongside the 'scoring 2/3' and we'd have all the SG/SF minutes covered (32 apeice to TMac, Battier and "2/3")
    We just need to find that scoring, 3pt shooting 2/3.
    Why not Ricky Davis?
     
  10. Since75

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    Because the Rox are in win now mode, I believe they should acquire Ricky Davis for 4-4.5mil of midlevel for 3yrs. Trade Bjax + Head + #1pick for Miller. With the 1.2-1.5 left of MLE sign Patrick Obryant.

    This will give the Rox 2 versatile wing players who have the skill set Morey is seeking. Obryant is a big 21 yr. old who still needs developing but will only need to play 10-15 min. in a pinch. He has the size and wingspan.
     
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    Unless the Rockets pick up Ron Artest, Shane Battier needs to start.

    You want him guarding the other team's best perimeter player, not their bench. Battier's best asset is his defense. Don't let it go to waste on a bench player.

    But imagine how great it would be if Artest opts out and signs with the Rockets.

    You would have Artest guarding the other team's best perimeter player in the beginning, and Battier either guarding the other team's best player while he's tired or their backup.
     
  12. DrNuegebauer

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    I know we're all pretty down because our team got knocked out.

    BUT - tell me this: if we had Ricky Davis all season long as the 2/3 backup instead of Luther Head, do you think we'd be gone?

    I just think Davis gives true offence - which is the only thing we were missing in the playoffs - our defence did a pretty good job, we just couldn't stick the shots (or create them at times).

    I don't think we need Davis AND Miller - if we could just get one of them that'd be enough! Then we add a backup C who can play bigger minutes if neccessary, and we're good to go!

    Full MLE to Davis
    Then send Head (or expirings or whatever) to NJ for Krstic.
    Bring Gerald Green back for the minimum OR get Dermarr Johnson for the minimum.

    Alston/ Francis/ Brooks/ Jackson
    McGrady/ Davis
    Ming/ Krstic/ ?Mutombo/ ?rookie
    Scola/ Landry/ Novak
    Battier/ Green
     
  13. saleem

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    Ricky Davis is a ball hog and does not pay attention on defense. He has speed,height and can score but his averages have been falling as well. I would avoid him unless there was no other option available but only for part of the MLE.
     
  14. saleem

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    Head and expirings won't get you Krstic. Getting either Green or Dermarr Johnson for the minimum is fine.
     
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    I wouldn't be so sure about that. Kristic is very injury prone and is slow to recover on top of that. He's not physical, and he plays outside way too much.

    Couple that with the fact that the Nets are rebuilding in order to introduce a good team to Brooklyn, you might be able to get Kristic for expirings.

    However, I wouldn't want Kristic if I were the Rockets. Those expirings might be able to land you a greater bargain than that...just like the Lakers.

    Just look for the struggling teams of the season who are looking to rebuild, such as:

    Pacers - Jermaine O'neal, Mike Dunleavy
    Kings - Ron Artest (if he doesn't opt out), Brad Miller
    Bulls - Hinrich, Gordon
    Knicks - Curry, Randolph, YUCK
     
  16. bfurlough

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    Pretty much so. When the ball swings to Battier and the defender guards him on the arch, Battier doesn't seem comfortable putting the ball on the floor to run past his defender. If someone gets to him at the rack, hes not that good of a passer. If you make Battier put the ball on the floor, that neutralizes him.

    Now i agree with your point with adding another 2/3 wingman next to him, but i don't think ricky davis is the person for that. Ricky hasn't proven to me he can make his teammates better is why i'm against him. I like someone like barbosa as our 2/3 off the bench. He wont get you 5 assists off the bench but i think he'll give up the rock before ricky.
     
  17. Since75

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    The reason I chose Davis and Miller is because we need to be deeper and not miss a beat when Tmac and Battier are out. As you said Davis gives offense but he can play defense when motivated. Miller provides a pure shooter and he has the ability to play a little point forward which is what he did in college. The more pieces another team has to worry about the better.
     
  18. GATER

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    You can't be serious that Battier is not an offensive liability. Forget the damned stats. He is worthless in transition and can only hit a 3 point shot from the short corner when nobody of average height or above is rotating to him. He can't post up anyone unless he's 5 feet from the basket and dribble penetration is an adventure.

    Spacing is important...but anyone can learn to space in a good offense. Not everyone has the ability to drive and finish strong. That IMHO is the commodity that is sorely needed.
     
  19. WhoMikeJames

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    Please sticky this. People think we can actually get Calderon.
     
  20. YallMean

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    I bet you Jason Kidd and Mark Jackson also make Novak look like a freak of nature.
     

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