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Chronic: Time to make the Rockets' FA shopping list

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets34Legend, May 7, 2008.

  1. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    after re-signing davis and ellis the warriors should be right at the LT.

    they probably wont bother to match a full MLE offer to pietrus, however the rockets probably dont want any new contracts longer than tmacs.

    the guy i'd go after is barnes.

    the clippers will also be at the LT after re-signing brand. maggetty could easily be available for the MLE, but other teams might be able to offer more years.
     
  2. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    So we need a perimeter player that can shoot and defend, and that can get his own shot, not to mention hit his free throws? How about trading BJax and Head for Cat Mobley? Jackson is not going to play much longer and is at best hot and cold. Head has consistantly failed in the playoffs. The Rockets get the Cat back where he belongs, and Donald Sterling gets to save about eight million bucks.

    After that throw the MLE (or what is left of it after re-signing Landry) at Barnes and call it a day.
     
  3. ColomboLQ

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    No mention of Josh Childress?
     
  4. Kim

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    GotGame15 is kind of right that Magette is in the keep dreaming category. The advantage is not too many teams have the cap space to be flinging money around, and also Magette is just not perceived as that star money player. His underratedness lowers his value.

    D-rock, I don't think Lou Williams is dismissed because he isn't good. I think Philly is going to keep him.

    James Jones is underrated. He has good length at 6'8", and is one of the best 3pt shooters in the L.
    07-08....44.4%
    06-07....37.8%
    05-06....38.6%
    04-05....39.8%

    Pietrus is the sexy choice with his size, athleticism and 3pt shooting.
    Roger Mason Jr. is underrated. He has legit scoring ability.
    Mike Miller is not a FA w/2 years left, but he's of course a target.
    Bobby Simmons makes Mike Miller money. He had a down year, but is a legit player with offensive range and good size.

    I wouldn't be so mad if the Rockets stayed with Alston, Brooks, and Francis at PG. BJax will get traded b/c his contract is such a good asset. It'd be really nice if the Rockets could get 2 guys who can play 2-3. Every team in the NBA has a small lineup that plays significant time. For example, the Spurs play a lot of Duncan, Finley, Bowen, Gino, Parker. The Hornets play a lot of Chandler, Bonzi, Peja, Pargo, Paul. The Rockets small team lacks, mainly b/c Head has proven to be pretty horrible in terms of decision making with the rock, and he also has a hard time getting off his own shot.

    Trade for Mike Miller (or Simmons), sign James Jones (or Pietrus or Mason Jr.), and draft a C (Hibbert, Thabet, etc.).

    That gives you: Yao, Scola, Battier, Mac, Rafer
    Bench of: Landry, Brooks, Miller, Jones, Hibbert, Franics, Hayes
    Inactive: Novak, Harris, Deke (if he stays)

    I bench depth is important. Having 2 guys who can shoot in addition to Landry's hustle and Brooks quickness can really make it easier on the Rockets to win games in which the starting lineup struggles offensively.
     
  5. JamesC

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    According to the video Ramunas Siskauskas guy shoots 62% from the 3 point line and 100% from the free throw line. Thats eye popping but I dont know how that would translate to the NBA.
     
  6. JamesC

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    ^^^ I dont know how but I completely forgot about the thread already going on about Siskauskas, my bad.
     
  7. el_locoteee

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    I been saying that forever

    We don't need to redo the team. we just need to upgrade/add pieces.

    the 2/3 wing back up players is the priority for this team.

    My choice is Michael Pietrus. Good size, young, shoot the 3, dunks, and play defense. This is one of the most realistic shoot we have.

    Mike Miller, Artest, etc. are a long shoot and there is so many variables to consider it possible.

    Miller could be possible is the rockets prepare the right expiring contract package for him. The problem is that Miller is Memphis best chance to unload Brian Cardinal contract and that is a no no.
     
  8. Dream lover

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    Problem with Peitrus is if you get him, I think you are getting rid of Battier in return. He is just like Shane except younger, same type of game play. I don't think you spend the money on that unless you are getting a deal in a trade for shane. If we traded Shane and some other contracts like BJ's for someone decent, then Pietrus would be a good pickup at MLE standards since he would be cheaper and younger.

    Yeah, Mike Miller means taking Brian Cardinal's contract. That was a dumb move by them, and it would be a dumb move for us to take it on epecially if they want someone like Landry or Scola in return. I wouldn't mind if they included Darko. He would be a decent backup for Yao. Either way, we don't really have the stuff to get them without giving up a young player we want to keep.
     
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    My choice as well. Mickael Pietrus is a good blocker and dunk-tip rebounder for a perimeter player. He can also shoot, although he's not the greatest.

    The FA plan should look like this:

    1. Jose Calderon (should re-sign)
    2. Monta Ellis (should re-sign)
    3. Josh Smith (should re-sign)
    4. Ron Artest (may not opt-out)
    5. Mickael Pietrus (may be available after GS locks up Ellis/Davis)

    After going through the most wanted list, Mickael Pietrus should be the first name that will actually be available.
     
  10. meh

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    Unfortunately, that's the type of player we're looking at, those who have trouble cracking the rotation on other teams.

    In retrospect, I do really have to put this on Les. Because if he were more free with the spending, Landry would've gotten the normal 2-year contract, and we wouldn't even have to worry about using the MLE to resign him right now.
     
  11. v3.0

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    Blaming Les on Landry's contract is correct in way, but the reason is incorrect IMO. Les was a proponent of signing Francis and when Francis was signed that cut into the available money to sign Landry.

    But lets get real, Les has had no problem green lighting blockbuster trades and giving fat contracts, unfortunately that put us in a hole for a long time (thanks CD thanks Rudy). So hope you can forgive les as he tightens the wallet these days.
     
  12. BackNthDay

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    JR is super ignorant on a different level. Dude will not be able to handle Houston night live. Imagine VMax to the 10th power. Too much risk in Htown, which would land him in jail. I prefer Magette, he matches our top 2 players in injuries, as a result, he can add something when they are down.
     
  13. Chuck 4

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    Thought we would get a Josh Childress mention in there, but I guess he lacks the size were looking for. Plus, I think Atlanta brings him back.
     
  14. adagio75

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    You simply have to have a 3rd star on this team to win! If we don't get a bonafied scorer/finisher, we will continue to underachieve in the playoffs. The third option is a must in this league. So let's not fool ourselves thinking that we will be ok will shaking our roster up outside of T-mac and Yao! "Win by anymeans necessary" should be our new motto!
     
  15. jump shooter

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    Les stepped up and paid a million dollars cash for 1st pick in the second round in Landry. According to Feign the rockets could potentially use a bi-annual exception to resign Landry and that may get it done short term.
     
  16. blender

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    No love for Bonzi, either.
     
  17. saleem

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    I think he would be a good addition for us but Atlanta will probably re-sign him. We don't have anything to offer in a trade either.
     
  18. saleem

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    The only way I think that may work out is if other teams get scared because of Landry's injuries.
     
  19. rterry

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    Very good post. We will have next to nothing for FA's after signing Landry. Maybe we can get a little younger backup center with what's left or with our 1st round pick.

    Our push will be via trade. We have 12M in expirings to offer. A sign and trade with SAC for Artest or LAC for Maggette would be awesome but unlikely.

    I, too, would like Miller, but I don't think we have enough to offer. They took a real beating on the Gasol trade. They'll be looking for way better than what we have to offer for him (and will get it from someone). We might be able to pull something off for one of their point guards if they get the second pick in the draft. I can't imagine them passing on Rose at number 2 even though they already have 3 very good prospects at the point. I would take any of them as a backup and future starter for us. Crittendon would be a great get for us, but not at the expense of a slashing-scoring swingman.

    A bigger SG to come off the bench to spell McGrady has to be our top priority and Morey and Adelman have said as much. Maggette would be the perfect 6 man, but is a risk because you would have to give up big bucks in a sign and trade and he has been injury prone.

    I wonder what a short term fix like Posey would cost. I think he is a FA. If we could sign him reasonable for 2 or 3 years to coincide with the end of TMACs contract, that might work.

    My vote is for taking a chance on Maggette. Get it done Daryl.
     
  20. jump shooter

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    Agree with you.
     

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