[CHRONIC] The Rockets don't appear to be a factor with star players

Interesting article, thanks for posting this.

I'm not for tanking at all. As a fan I don't want to pay full price for tickets to see a half assed effort. We spend too much time and money as fans (on season tickets, jerseys, food concessions etc.) to see anything less than the best product our dollars can put on the floor. That being said, I think Les and Daryl have been doing a great job for us.

I think Morey has done a excellent job with the things that are within his control. If we trade some of our assets to move up in the draft, knowing Morey's draft skills I'm sure he will find us a superstar.

If Yao can put together about 2 years of great health and strong playoff runs, I think that would dispel the stigma of him being damaged goods for other stars to join and win with.

 

Agreed. When Melo leaves the Nuggets, that franchise will restart its rebuilding process.

In addition, the best outcome for us is to have Melo and Paul join Orlando, instead of Dallas, Portland or NY (obvious reasons).

There is quite a seismic change happening in the NBA and we might come out allright if some of our young players have break out years.


ps. My cautiously optimistic view comes from a guy who is not known to be optmistic. So is not all doom and gloom in Rocketland, guys.

 

Guys, guys, we don't recruit stars; we make them!

Stars are after their own thing; they have no loyalty to the city or to the team. I like our team of superior role players; they're easy to root for and they will turn heads again this upcoming season.

They have had a year to build their confidence in RA's system, and know their strengths and limitations. They have had a year of growth to know we can win even when Yao is out. They play as a team and win and lose as a team, without anyone grabbing the glory or without anyone making excuses. This will be a special season!

 

Took the words right out of my mouth...

 

Personally, I'd rather not have a player who doesn't want to live up to his contract. Players who want to play in the NBA should respect the system. I thought Steve Francis was acting like a spoiled child when he said he wouldn't play for Vancouver, even though they drafted him. Same for Kobe. It reeks of ego -- "I'm too good to be on such a bad or mediocre team." Grow up and get over yourself.

I can't help it. I'm just built this way. I'll probably always be on a different page than a lot of other fans here, in this regard.

 

Why tank when we already have the Knicks picks?

If Amare got injured, top 5 pick is almost a certainty.

 

I dont think it's more about our city, as opposed to the type of players of today's game. Ofcourse if you factor in winning we're up there. But most of the big name players are all about marketing they're brand and the reality show aspect of things. Houston isnt a city thats known for that. We're more slow paced. That's why Ron left for the Lakers, that's why Lebron got out of Cleveland. That's why Bosh left Toronto. It's not basketball related

 

The thing Morey's stats didn't take into effect is how much today's NBA stars are pansies. None of them want to be the guy they have to have someone else. You have to appreciate a guy like Dirk sticking it out in Dallas.

 

Even if he doesn't get injured its a possibility. He's highly overrated and needs an all star pg. Without another star player the knicks are garbage.that's WE DON'T NEED TO TANK.

 

Agreed, we don't need to tank with as long as we have the NY picks. Plus we already have 3 players who were lottery worthy on our roster...(Bud, Hill and Pat)

Yes it does, every draft no matter how weak at the very least get one or two stars out of the entire draft...
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Personally I just want to score high enough with the 2011 NY pick to get a chance to draft Enes Kanter, a young talented center with potential to be Yao's future replacement.

--RB

 

No star player wanna play with an injury-prone "superstar"; in the past 7 yrs, the only star player joined = T-mac, AND at that time YAOMING IS HEALTHY.

 

Screw the Chronic lately. Those guys are always buzz kills to everything. Some of their football guys like Mc Clain are Cowboys fans more than they are Texans fans and they are always putting down the fans of our sports town. Those guys are jokes. Except for Lance Z. His article is pretty much close to the truth but he is wrong in this one too. We are major players in everything. Thats how you are always in the playoffs and always in discussions even in down years.

 

2 years left vs free agent
apple vs oranges

It's unfortunate that most people can't see this. Who gives a damn about CP3? If NO trades him to Houston, there's not a damn thing he can do about it but play.

 

1 year he plays, the 2nd year is mostly lock out then he walks.

So, yes....a 1 yearish rental....but whom do you give up, I am all for a Ron Artest style of acquisition....?

DD

 

I am not sure this is true. Many stars are loyal to their teams and appear to be willing to stay.

D Wade for instance. Or Kobe Byrant. And let's not forget Kevin Durant - he's staying put in Oakland about the same time LeBron bolted.

Not everyone wants to bolt out of town. Lebron's bolting is nothing new. Shaq did it and no one flinched back then. He Dumped Orlando in much the same way as Lebron did Cleveland sans the ESPN special.

In fact, if you look at the last 6 of the past 7 championship teams all had a home grown superstar leading the way.

L.A. - Kobe
Boston - Pierce
San Antonio - Duncan
Miami - Wade
Chicago - MJ
Houston - Hakeem

I think Durant will win a ring someday too. Sure, Lebron can ride Wade's back and win a ring, but that's just one example.

NBA championships have always required super star talent. Yes, Detroit broke that mold in upsetting the Lakers but they also had a very easy road to the finals in the Eastern Conference that year - they toughest competition being an over-the-hill Pacers team with Reggie Miller on crutches. A team so weak it couldn't return to the finals.

The game has never been about assets and Hooiser style basketball. It works great in college, but in the pro-game, it's your stars that win rings. That has always been the case, and it still is the case today.

 

What does "mostly lock out" mean? They're going to have a 20 game regular season? The NBA will have some semblance of a regular season or they'll lock out for the entire year.

If they have yet another 50-game regular season and CP3 plays in that, I have no problem. If anything, I'd welcome a chance for Yao to play a lessened season for more playoff freshness.

 

I really have no idea Meh, but I suspect (Ie guess) that these issues are bigger than the last lockout and may go on longer.

Either way, I am down with CP3, for the right price.

DD

 

QFT

Stars win rings, role players win games.

Everybody on our roster sans Yao is a high quality role player who can easily be replaced.

In this league, you have to have more than one superstar on your team to win.

LA- Kobe and Gasol

Boston- KG, Pierce, Allen

San Antonio- Duncan, Ginobli, Parker and in the earlier years, Robinson

Miami - Wade and Shaq

Chicago- MJ and Pippin

The only ones that I can think of that didn't have more than one superstar was the Rockets and Pistons in 2004.

DD

 

I doubt this supposed upcoming lockout lasts a whole year. Maybe 40 games, but not that much. The owners and player's union will come to an agreement promptly.

DD

 

everyone needs to quit that **** about the "durant mentality". It is not a noble decision to stick with a great up and coming team with tremendous young talent that took the lakers to 6 games. And you can say "well lebron had the best record", but the cavs were not going anywhere and that was very clear