[CHRONIC] Rockets finding out what works without Yao, McGrady

Its going to be a very long season 5th seed in the lottery book it.

Brooks, Landry, Budinger, Ariza and maybe Pops and Andersen is the only 6 players to have room to improve, but not enough to get excited about. All these players should be bench players on a very good team who will see heavy minutes this season.

We already know what Scola and Battier and Hayes will bring.

Brooks and Ariza will be our 2 most inconsistent players out of the whole bunch.

Budinger and Landry will be out most consistent out of the whole bunch.


Pops is who i pick to be the stud suprise of the team.

Other then that i'm not going to get excited this year or the next few years unless McGrady and Yao magically becomes more durible.

 

Dude...you need to cite something more legit than a video game. That garbage is all subjective. Ask Durvasa about legitimate stats, he'll take ya to school.

NBA2k10...please...

 

I don't care for the game, but i'm sure it don't lie in terms of production and that is how it can be pretty accurate.

Comparing facts to what i'm saying about being an elite team this team has a ways to go. Look at the teams of the past minus Miami, you need 4 top 50 players or 3 top 25 players this current team is no where close even if healthy and this is fact this has nothing to do with game ratings i'm comparing the games top players to the champions this past decade in reality and it's fairly accurate. Statistics has nothing to do with it.

 

this is my favorite thread of 2009, because he is being serious.

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Thank god we are not picking players based on the video game rating.

 

The fact that this guy has the same reputation rating that I do makes me very sad.

 

If we were, I wonder what kind of contract Sonic the Hedgehog would get? is he worth full MLE? does anyone have any videos of him passing? is he a point forward?

 

Like i was saying champions in the past decade minus Miami have won rings with atleast 3 top 25 players or 4 top 50 players this is fact. So you can count McGrady out he was only a 77 this season. Yao is the only top 25 player as i look at this list where is the 3 other top 50 players?

So as you noticed Rockets down fall has been management above the injury problems. To do anything they are simply going to have to trade Scola, Battier, Ariza, Brooks and Landry and fillers to have 4 players in the top 50 or what ever they do.

As it appears they have been pretty passive or just dumb.


Ignore the ratings just go by the top 50 alone.


NBA TOP 50
97 – Kobe Bryant
96 – LeBron James <------------------------ No chance
96 – Dwyane Wade <------------------------- No chance
94 – Chris Paul
89 – Dwight Howard (5)
89 – Kevin Garnett
89 – Deron Williams
88 – Tim Duncan
88 – Carmelo Anthony
87 – Brandon Roy (10)
87 – Rajon Rondo
86 – Devin Harris
85 – Chauncey Billups
84 – Chris Bosh <------------------------------- Looking worst everyday
84 – Pau Gasol (15)
84 – Al Jefferson
84 – Carlos Boozer <-------------------------- If Houston gets serious
84 – Danny Granger
84 – Paul Pierce
84 – Andre Iguodala (20)
84 – Tony Parker
84 – Gilbert Arenas
83 – Dirk Nowitzki
83 – Yao Ming <---------------------------------- This is one and he is 24 on the list.
83 – Joe Johnson (25) <---------------------- Becomes a Free Agent
83 – Manu Ginobili
83 – Caron Butler <---------------------------- If they get serious
82 – Kevin Durant
82 – Amare Stoudemire <------------------- If they get serious
82 – Baron Davis (30)
81 – Vince Carter <---------------------------- Had a chance
81 – Stephen Jackson <--------------------- If they get serious
81 – Shaquille O’Neal
80 – Steve Nash
80 – Derrick Rose (35)
80 – Jason Kidd
80 – Ray Allen
80 – Ron Artest <------------------------------ Had him, then he bolted
79 – Jameer Nelson
79 – Emeka Okafor (40)
78 – David West
78 – Gerald Wallace
78 – Rudy Gay <------------------------------- Drafted him, then they traded him
78 – Richard Hamilton
78 – Ben Gordon (45)
78 – O.J. Mayo
78 – Jason Terry
78 – Andre Miller
78 – Mike Bibby
78 – Nate Robinson (50)

 

Could they manage to do anything with 4 in the top 60 or 4 in the top 70 maybe, but Battier, Ariza, Scola, Landry, Brooks dont even crack the top 70.

Realistically they can get 4 in the top 60 at best, anything less i will continue to grade it as lateral moves.

I'm quite sure Morey knows the real Rockets mistake in the Rudy trade as everything he wish Battier was Rudy is.

The logic that we were in "win now mode" failed and with ever injury we continue to draft at sub par levels and have intentions to rebuild, but they need to retool is all.

Morey considering what he had to work with has done a very good job, but i'm quite sure he knows it could have turned out better as well.

 

Someone needs to rookify this guy...

 

What are you talking about. If you are going to make an argument based on something as dumb as video game ratings, at least get it right.

You say it is fact that no team has won a championship without at least 3 top 25 players or 4 top 50 players. Then you put a list out and last years champions only have two players on it (not counting Artest). Other then Kobe and Pau, where are the other Lakers in the top 25? The Pistons didnt have three top 25 or four top 50 guys when they won their championship either.

As a matter of fact, other then the Celtics there isnt even a team in the league that meets the 3 top 25 or four top 50 rule that you mandate as a title contender. I guess the season should be canceled.

Besides any list that has Gilbert Arenas, who hasnt played a meaningful game in two years rated higher then Joe Johnson, or that has Nate Robinson in the top 50 is ridiculous.

 

Boston has 4 in the top 40, but 3 in the top 50 for sure
Lakers 4 in top 55, but 3 in the top 50 for sure
Rockets 2 in the top 55, hopefully 2 in the top 40

So you see what i'm saying despite being some game, i don't care about the game or ratings i'm comparing to what they think based on true history that takes place.

Realistically i think they can add Stoudemire, Butler, Richardson and Rubio, Bayless, Pryzbilla and Daniels and this is the only move i would consider a real upgrade beyond any move they made the last 15 years.

 

I'm going to guess that this fool thinks that Ariza for Artest was a complete steal for the Fakers.
And as for Battier-Gay, people always seem to forget that we managed to get rid of Swift with that deal, and with him sucking up cap space, we wouldn't have gotten Scola. Battier and Scola vs. Gay and Swift? Only a moron would take the latter.
And I'm wondering where you get this "They had a chance" "if they get serious" junk. What's your brilliant plan for getting Boozer and Butler, heh?

 

Now that I'm capable of climbing back onto my chair after laughing that hard...

You think they can get their hands on all these guys? Contrary to what you think, this isn't a video game, kid. You can't just trade out the entire team.

 

Don't feed the troll, guys.

 

Oh jesus crist i'm not arguing so don't say i'm trying to make an argument.

Yes there has been in other games rating, but not on this list infact 3 of the top 50 is about right for Boston and L.A in reality.

Bowen, Duncan, Ginobilli and Parker were all top 50 in some games.
Billups, Wallace, Wallace or Prince and Hamilton were top 50 in some games.
Harris, Dirk, Howard and Terry were top 50 i think, but this don't count.

One game had Nash, Marion, Diaw and Amare top 50, this dont count either.

I'm talking currently playing at that time or this time not the NBA's greatest.

Even guys like Lewis never cracked the top 50 and Rondo is no where near 87, and you would think Mac is some where near top 40 and still could return to this.

I said in the past decade besides Miami and yes even Odom last season was a top 50 i think with a 84.

all i'm pointing out is Rockets are slacking lolz.



Anyways i'm done with this topic and who cares.

 

Morey has said that he uses NBA Live '09 simulations as a scouting tool.

But how valuable a player is in a certain team context doesn't necessarily correspond to their player rating. You can't really boil down everything about a player into a single number.

What is the formula NBA 2K uses to come up with those ratings, anyway?

 

While Rockets(random numbers) reasoning is flawed, his point is valid. Our starting lineup is simply not that good, and there are three or four handfuls of players that would be ranked ahead each of our starters.

Of course, the beauty of basketball and most sports for that matter is it's not entirely a sport based on talent alone, and a group of players can be greater than the sum of its parts.

That said, based on talent alone Rockets are probably a lottery bound team, and as a cohesive unit, they're still at best a first round fodder in the playoffs.

 

They havn't tried charlie. throw in a pick or 2, but it's unlikely is it possible yes, is it impossible? no. will they try? i put money on it they don't.

Morey was after Butler and Rubio before and was listening about Amare and Barbosa that was floating around once it would be magic to get Richardson instead of Barbosa and Portland always wanted Battier to my knowlege the last 2 seasons, but will all this happen chances are nope, but atleast Morey is intent on improving the team based on low-ball proposals so far unless things end up heating up at the dead line.

 

Step away...from the video game.