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(CHRONIC) Point guard wishes Rockets would extend contract to match his growing value

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by LpBryan03, Sep 29, 2010.

  1. dartherus

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    All you talk is about offfense....In offesne you can try to justify AB lack of court vision and Basketball IQ...BUT what about defense?

    Check my proposed roster via trades...it would be as good or better in offense, but FAR BETTER in defense...

    That´s another point to consider...I see it very difficult for a team to contend having 2 defensive holes in the periemeter....

    AB, Martin, Battier ...only 1 good defender....
    Compare to this
    Hinrich, Martin, Igoudala....only 1 bad defender...and better IMO...
     
  2. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    you know what else he does when he can't score? He shows bad body language, gets stupid frustration fouls. He's not a creator so it's not like he can lead a fast break either. Defenses do not "collapse" on him. He doesn't command a double team.
     
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  3. TheFreak

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    Is this what Derek Fisher excels at?
     
  4. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    as much as I hate that POS. He's clutch when he needs to be. finds the people who need the ball and is just nails.
     
  5. Dave_78

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    You win. Of course, I'll be throwing your name out regularly when I'm laughing my ass off at the people who thought Brooks was in the Rockets' long term plans when he gets moved. But you stay up there in fantasy land until then, Sparky. It seems like a really fun place.
     
  6. Dave_78

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    I would say so. He's also still a pretty good defender except against guys with superb foot speed. Having said that, I think he is so far past his prime that he should have retired but the collective talent of the Lakers team allows him to stick around.
     
  7. Kojirou

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    Wut.
    I mean, wut. Evidence of bad body language? Fracking really? Are you really going to suggest that Brooks is a damper on this team's chemistry? That is to put it mildly laughable.
     
  8. rock4ever

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    Yea, they said the same thing about Tony Parker his first few years :rolleyes:

    Since you think the most improved player is replaceable, who exactly do you replace him with? (Bracing myself a idiotic rebuttal)
     
  9. larsv8

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    I have no idea if Brooks is in our long term plans, nor do I care. Heck, I dont even know what our long term plans are. All I know is he is the best PG we have now.

    Its perfectly feasable he gets traded. He has value as a trade asset. I'll laugh along with you because I know any trade we make will make us better. I don't care about Brooks, I have no attachment to him other than he is one of our players.
     
  10. Felece

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    lowry got 7.5... so over
     
  11. Dave_78

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    There were quite a few occasions last year when he flipped out when he didn't get calls late in games. I didn't really have a problem with it but I could see where his lack of composure could be an issue down the stretch in an important game.

    The fact that he now wants special treatment by the Rockets organization troubles me much, much more, however.
     
  12. Dave_78

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    Cool beans man. I like the guy and think he is a very good scorer. I just think his inability to do anything but score (and he doesn't do that very efficiently) is going force the Rockets to move him. I would love to keep him as a 6th man once everyone comes back healthy but I honestly don't think his ego could handle that. He will be moved to bring in a more valuable piece for this team IMO.
     
  13. leebigez

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    I didnt pay alot of attention to your big bang theory because there is a random trade thread already open and you overvalue the expirings and the teams involved for them.

    I will trade anyone as long as it improves the team. Brooks has flaws just like all the other rockets, but there is something called growth . I'm looking at 17 and 5 with a 2:1 to ratio,45% fg and 40% 3fg. That tells me he's getting it as a 3rd yr starter. If he goes backwards in his asst-to ratio, then he hasnt done his summer homework. Just like the rest of the rockets and fits, they need improvements. Brooks played well once the rockets got one of the 2 zero threats off the field.
     
  14. The_Yoyo

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    maybe 7.5 canadian but he did not get 7.5 us

    24/4 years ~ 6 per year but the last year is not guaranteed.

    where the heck did this 7.5 figure come from????
     
  15. leebigez

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    division gives alot of posters on this board problems i guess :grin:
     
  16. RocketForever

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    Professional athletes always want more money/new contract after a breakout season.

    It's only fair that they would take less money/a lesser contract after a subpar season.

    But it will never happen.
     
  17. TheFreak

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    What stats indicate that Brooks doesn't score efficiently?
     
  18. dartherus

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    I´ll repost the deals proposed plus extra stuff... I myself confirmed via trade checker....OTOH, apart from expiring, there are FIRST ROUND PICKS to ease the trades, you seem to forget that....

    FIRST deal Brooks+Jeffries+fillers (Chuck probably) for Igoudala...
    Why not? MIP winner for Iggy plus sweeteners? care to explain me why do you think it's impossible?

    If first trade is confirmed....then Rockets would need another PG....then do it in another trade (or in one single 3-way trade) Battier (interesting and Expiring) for Hinrich....

    There are first and second round draft picks to ease the trades as needed.....so, in a very realistic possibility, the roster could end being:

    PG:Hinrich, Lowry + Teodosic (proposed by me, using LLE+chinese shoe contract for paying him, no buyout needed AFAIK)
    SG:Martin, Lee
    SF:Igoudala, Budinger
    PF:Scola, Patterson
    C:Yao, Miller + 3rd C (hopefully Dampier)

    Check the perimeter, same or better offensive potential WITH BETTER D AND COURT VISION.....leebigez would you deny this would be a very improved roster?

    You forget that IQ can NOT be gained with training....other players had a problem of ATTITUDE (not lack of born IQ) that may be fixed with age...OTOH, AB seems to be a total lack of IQ (ignoring wide open teammates over and over is a clear signal, Yao, Scola, Martin, not only Ariza, suffered from this), and that´s something you get from birth, and can improve from ages 0 to 5....later on is very hard to gain IQ....

    That´s why I always suggest to trade AB ASAP, cause his trade value is at its peak...do you understand now?
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    It's amazing to me that Brooks has stepped up, improved his game, worked hard, filled gaps when folks like Yao went down, and shouldered a bigger load, and so many people who could hold him up as an unsung hero and claim to be fans seem so down on him.

    He's incredibly under appreciated in Houston. That's too bad.

    Is he Paul or Williams? No, of course not, but he's better than half of the starting pg's out there and he gives his heart for the Rockets and has always kept a good attitude.
     
  20. dartherus

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    I don't think anyone is blaming him or cursing him...at least in my case, my point is, what's best for rockets....

    Just answer, did you check the proposed roster after the trades? is the current roster, with 2 defensive holes in the perimeter, more reliable with the proposed roster, with only one hole, and as good or better in offense?

    Answer that, because that's what is being analyzed, not if Brooks is a cool guy or not....
    He has strenght and weaknesses, but there can be other players whose strenghts/weaknesses suit better for the Rockets than him, what's the problem with that? could you explain us?
     

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