[CHRONIC] Mavericks to get Butler, Rockets to keep searching

Agreed

 

I agree with you but none of that is Morey's fault.

He got the job when the team was supposed to be a contender and was winning a lot of games. Therefore, he didn't have high draft/lottery picks other than the one where we picked Gay and traded for Battier. At that point, McGrady was still in the mix and we needed complementary players to make a run at a championship. Morey was sacrificing young talent for a chance to "win now" and it's hard to argue that that wasn't the right approach at the time.

I think he's doing a good to great job given the cards he was dealt, which were two injury-prone cornerstone players and a number of late 1st and 2nd round picks.

My point remains the same: It's too early to thoroughly evaluate Morey's abilities as a GM. Given what he's had to work with, he's done at least a respectable job.

At least he hasn't hamstrung the organization with Cato/Taylor/Moochie type contracts or overpaid for chronic underachievers like Stromile Swift like CD did on a number of occasions.

 

not blaming morey, here's the way i see it. we're screwed. we don't have anyone who can consistently score. we have a inconsistent AB, an average Lowry, rookies who are average, Landry who is overachieving, Scola who has peaked already, Hayes who IMO wouldn't start on most teams, Ariza and Battier are defensive perimeter players.

yeah, not morey's fault, but this team is not going anywhere unless we trade Mac for an all-star caliber player, yao coming back healthy and playing throughout the playoffs, and signing a legitimate border-line all star or another all-star caliber player in the offseason. otherwise, yeah, we're still in the bottom four of the 8 playoff teams or we may not even be a playoff team.

the atlanta game was all i had to watch, we lack the talent. we have the coach, but not the players.

i could easily see us going into the lottery. John Wall please!

 

They want Iggy...

 

i read the deal with philly's been dead for awhile.

 

Those balls left Yao and Tmac fighting without help when they were young and relatively healthy.

 

Well, you responded to my post about Morey with "the only problem I have with that..." so I took it that you were putting it on him to some extent.

Fair enough. I agree with a lot of what you're saying here. My thought would be to be patient and realize that no team is contending every single year. Every organization goes through it's ups and downs. When we got our chance at the first overall pick and drafted Yao Ming, we likely had a window of several years to try to build around that. We may have another shot or two but it's entirely possible that we are going to have to get worse before we get better. It's up to each fan as to how they handle that process. It's not easy but fans of every team go through it at one point or another. Every team goes through down years.

 

No, that was the cost of trading for Tracy McGrady. McGrady was who the owner and especially JVG wanted.

 

What did the McGrady trade have to do with signing Cato to that exorbitant contract... or Mo Taylor... Moochie? Those things occurred independently and for the most part, before the McGrady deal.

I didn't even mention the number of failed draft picks by CD. So far, Morey seems to be far better than CD at finding players that can outproduce their draft position.

 

I would be glad too see mc grady contract expire after all that bull **** thing that was on him and he wouldn't let us down. I think some on the organization really want to see them in camp practice and in the low mid level exception 6 mil fighting for the spot

i think that i read here in a thread that we got a trade last year for vince carter and he start all that rehab when he know about it

 

It would still be a major disappointment if Morey does not pull off a big time deal, a NY deal involving Jeffries, Hughes + Chandler for T-Mac is looking good right now...

 

Regardless of the precise details, my point is that CD was far from perfect and even if he did have "balls" as the poster said a couple pages back, those "balls" arguably hurt us more than they helped us. He probably should have used his "brain" more a la Daryl Morey.

Along with that, it's too early to fully judge Morey's abilities. It's kind of like when a new president takes over and is blamed for some of the things caused by the previous administration. It takes time to truly gauge the impact of the new guy.

And Morey is still the new guy in relative terms. He's doing at least a pretty good job given what he's had to work with.

 

Excuse me. Sorry to interrupt but, how do i post my trade scenario here?

 

Oh let's be fair! I was at that preseason game. Cato had a triple double. He had something like 18 points, 20 odd something rebounds and 11 blocked shots if my memory serves correct. I tried looking it up, but I have no idea where you find the numbers for individual preseason games. Cato left that game to a standing ovation.

That said - it was still ridiculous to give him that contract based on that one performance.


As for the actual topic at hand - I don't buy this rumored deal with Dallas. Why on Earth would a team with a public image problem trade for Josh Howard? After JR Smith and Ron Artest, he's the last guy you'd want to acquire if you're looking to clean up your image.

 

Time to trade Battier and Load up on Draft picks.....

and draft Greg Monroe and Avery Bradley or Xavier Henry.....

--RB

 

I think you have to save it after you put it together if you're using the one on ESPN.

You can also take a screenshot and upload it to something like ImageShack and post the image here using the image tags.

Or, you can just use words to describe the trade.

 

Maybe because he's owed nothing next season?

Maybe they'll even just buy him out?

I thought I read somewhere that they have no plans to make him a future piece of the puzzle.

 

Well then I wouldn't see why their offer is better than McGrady. Howard and Gooden are both gigantic knuckleheads that will do absolutely nothing to repair that team's image. But, while a great many of the basketball fans in Houston, Orlando and Toronto hate T-Mac, the rest of the world seems to love him.

It makes no sense to me. Now, it does make sense if the Rockets were never serious about acquiring Butler and were simply using those talks as leverage. But that's about all I can imagine.

 

Well whos next on the list

 

But it sounds like Washington's incoming contracts would also save them money this season since they amount to much less than McGrady's contract. They have obviously given up on this season so it's probably all about saving money.

Basically, they can save money both this season and next with the Dallas offer.

And maybe I'm wrong and they do want to try to exercise the option on Howard despite his bad image. I would think not for the same reasons you stated previously.