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[CHRONIC] Is Artest better than McGrady?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets34Legend, Mar 9, 2009.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I agree with that, I think J-Ho would have made us a winner in that series......so many Ifs ...around McGrady, maybe it is not fair, but it is what it is.....

    I think the way he handles his business contributes massively to his perception.

    DD
     
  2. tinman

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    sounds like more excuses for Tracy to me

    We're talking about an entire career of not being able to close out a first round series.
     
  3. Tom Bombadillo

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    Tracy is the "If" King, and he has many "If" peasants. Excuses. Drama.


    That is one aspect of Ron that I love; When he is wrong he is wrong, when he F's up, he F's up. But he is always working his ass off regardless.
     
  4. yao123

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    tlady can lick all the super star balls if hes healthy...shooting f0cking 40% from the field compared to 48% + by others stars.....pleaseeeeeee....any ball hogger can make 30 points shooting 40% believe me....i dont know any dam player in the nba that cant do a jump shot. And everytime tmac play he makes everyone around him depress and ****...f0ck hate this fool get him outta here
     
  5. Tom Bombadillo

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    So now Tracy can't get healthy enough to lick balls. ;)

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  6. OpportunityCost

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    It's all my fault, it's all my fault.

    Signed,

    T-mac
     
  7. Artesticles

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    Haha... OK.
    What's your definition of close out? I count one year where his team should've advanced (06-07). That's one year of his 12 year career.
     
  8. TMac4Life#1

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    I hope you was being sarcastic because that team wasn't going anywhere. It was basically McGrady and Yao. Its all T-Macs fault hahaha wow. Yao and McGrady had no role players. You hit it on the nail when you said washed up players. So how can washed up players be good role players.
     
  9. daoshi

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    Talking about having a short memory! Wasn't just last season that this Yao-less Rockets team won 20+ games in a row, and played the Jazz tough even without their starting PG? A healthy TMac is a much better player than Artest can dream of, even today when he is on the downwards of his career.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Hey man, that is the team JVG wanted, he always went with the old veteran guys over the young up and comers.

    Remember Kelena Azubuike?

    DD
     
  11. wekko368

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    Looks like you're the one with the short memory...
     
  12. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    I agree don't know if they would have won three in a row, but they would have won at lease one for sure. And to this day I think they would have still been together because I don't see Tracy running Shaq out of town. So in the end I think Tracy and Shaq would have came a way with more rings just because they would have been together longer.

    And I think you're wrong about Tracy never being efficient as Kobe when it comes to going to the basket. We all know hes not now, but at his peak I believe he got to the rim better than Kobe did. I don't feel like looking up any stats but I believe one year Tracy was getting to the line almost ten times a game, so that mean he was going to the basket and being efficient a lot.
     
  13. t_mac1

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    playoffs:
    tmac - 8.8ft attempts per game
    kobe - 7.1 ft attempts per game
    king james - 10.5 ft attempts per game

    but DD is right, tracy during the REG. SEASON of the past few years needed to go to the rack more. had he brought the intensity he played with in the playoffs, tracy would have been a better reg. season player.
     
  14. Nicksta

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    Ron has unbelievable work ethic so far with the rocks, no matter what is going on he is going to work as hard as he can. I am a huge fan of ron. we seem a lot tougher mentally and physically. I would take him over tracy any day of the week.
     
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    The Rockets were looking lottery bound after the T-Mac trade. It was only when they traded for Wesley that they started to roll. Adding Jon Barry also gave them another spark.
     
  16. wekko368

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    Those stats show that Kobe has been the most efficient (amongst those 3) at getting to the line.

    You need to take into account the roles that each player has on his respective team. For the bulk of Kobe's career, he was the #2 option. The same can't be said for McGrady and Lebron.
     
  17. t_mac1

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    kobe was #2 option in nature (ala shot attempts), but he touches the ball just as much as shaq did due to playmaking duties so he got his. it wasn't like he's #2 like pau gasol is to kobe where kobe took 22 shots a game and pau takes 12.
     
  18. T-mac&Yao=RING

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    See its not like Yao been in the league for only 3 years, the other years he didn't make the playoffs and thats just as bad as losing in the first round. As a matter of fact I would rather make the playoffs and lose than not even making it there.
     
  19. wekko368

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    The fact that he touched the ball as much as Shaq did is irrelevant because, as the #1 option, Shaq would normally get to shoot.

    My point is that Kobe had to share. Lebron and McGrady didnt have to if they didn't want to.
     
  20. badgerfan

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    1) Google "Pistol Pete".
    2) Even by that measure T-Mac's worse off than Yao because T-Mac's been in the league for so many more years.
     

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