Chronic: If Landry leaves, Joey Dorsey is the Rockets' solution

I doubt Landry is getting that much, because Josh Childress is making about as much, except for an extra year. I doubt a team would give Landry that much, right now. Maybe 4 to 5 million, but not 7.

He will probably stay put for one more year, but I think he is gone next year. Right now, I would put sign Landry and put him on the trading block.

 

Dorsey has no shot. Landry does already.

 

Where'd this "league minimum" idea come from? Landry's not going to sign for the league minimum, not for the Rockets, nor for any other team.

 

Thank you, again! Carl Landry has got to be the most hyped up injury-prone player in the NBA. Sure he's performed well, but he's seriously not as good as everybody makes him out to be. Here's a guy who clearly has chronic knee problems yet everyone is just dying to keep him even though we already have a much better starting PF in Scola and solid backups in Hayes and Dorsey. And then earlier this summer everyone was talking crap about TMac because he was injured despite him putting up 27ppg in the playoffs. I just don't get it.

 

I think his point is that you can't sign and trade landry while using the MLE and that there is no way Landry is signing the league minimum. So, you can't s&t landry.

 

No, Landry has "it." We were all witnesses. If the injury caused him to lose "it," then he has to go. But if he shows in pre-season and beyond, providing we keep him, that he still has "it," he is a vital component to a championship run. During the stretch last year, Landry was absolutely as good as everyone made him out to be. You really need to watch those games again- he was clearly a difference-maker in a big way, and he can only get better if health is not an issue.

 

I agree! I hate "Chronic"... does this bother anyone else?

 

It never really bothered me. But I didn't realize till just now that there's only one or two posters who ever use that abbreviation in their thread titles. I assumed it was just a common thing here.

 

Landry has a monopoly on dunks?

 

The most important thing about Landry is he plays with rhythm on offense. He plays within the flow of the offense and has a very good midrange game for a rookie, even for his age. So yeah, maybe Dorsey can throw it down around the basket but it remains to be seen if he can be half as effective as Landry in terms of overall offensive contribution.

 

Rhythm - Landry makes quick adjustments to defensive settings and offensive plays. Just a very effective player when healthy and explosive.

 

BimaThug was talking about Dorsey's contract situation, not Landry's.

He's saying the Rockets should sign Dorsey to a league minimum contract with a team option on Year 3, so that they can avoid with Dorsey the messy complications arising right now with Landry.

 

I still have games 3 and 5 of the Jazz series on my DVR, and I've watched them about 3 times and parts more than that. In game 3, Landry comes in right after the start of the 2nd and immediately has a big impact. Strips the ball, rebounds, bulls his way inside for a score, boxes out... the guy was playing like he was during The Streak, and it's a gas to watch.

 

I know we disagree slightly about this, but I've seen so many guys around here that I respect that are so sure we don't need Landry.

I do know this much, if we don't sign him Morey's going to have to pull a rabbit out of a hat.

 

I know I may have come across a bit as not being hot to resign Carl, but if it sounded that way, it was unintentional. I love the guy and will be very bummed out if he doesn't come back. I just don't want to over pay for him, that's all. Had he been healthy all season and his knee wasn't a question mark, I'd be more inclined to push deep into the MLE for him. The dude is a gas to watch playing when his has his wheels in order!

 

Landry and Dorsey are different types of players. Landry hustles and can put up points, while Dorsey is a rebounder and defensive presence. Dorsey's game is more like Hayes than Landry, defense but little or no offense.
Loosing Landry will be tough as we have no PF on the bench that can be an offensive threat.

 

Agree, Deke, Hayes and Dorsey = tons of defense and zero offense.

 

can't be true

insane?

 

I want Landry to stay - I still fondly remain the Seattle game where he morphed into an And-1 animal.

That said, we've only seen a half season from him, and his open refusal for a check on the condition of his knee cartilage is a red flag. If it was a ruse just to scare off suitors, wouldn't you call the bluff and wave the 5x5 flag all over the league? Amare Stoudamire pulled this stunt - signing his max extension then turning around and revealing he needed microfracture surgery. And Landry's difficulty returning from injury last year was suspicious, especially with all the mention of the knee swelling.

If he wants the full MLE for 4 or 5 years, he's not worth it. He'd be nice, but he's not going to be a starter so long as we have Yao and Scola in front of him. To pay that for a (possibly) injury prone reserve is foolish. 6-6 PFs aren't that incredibly difficult to replace. Besides, Harris is a reasonable replacement for 15 mpg. Not as good, but reasonable with a similar knack for scoring close to the basket.

Should Yao manage to play for 65 games, I'm not as concerned that our other backup frontcourt players (Hayes, Dorsey, Deke) are offensively challenged. Yao, Scola, Rafer, and McGrady *should* give us 35 mpg each and 70 to 80 points a night. Get 5 points a game each from Battier, Barry, and our backup frontcourt, and there's our 90 to 100 a game.

Yes, I'd like Landry to return. But we can't be desperate in resigning him. I'd rather replace him with someone that merits the MLE than live with another Juwan- or Mike James-like bad contract on the books.

Evan

 

He has had an MRI to check his knee. I don't know many people that would allow a potential employer cut them so that the potential employer could find reasons to pay them less with getting some kind of insurance. Due to the NBA salary cap, I think insurance is out of the question.

If the Rockets were concerned about his knee, they should have had the knee scope done when he was a player for them and not have him play until they were sure he was okay.

To me it seems both sides are playing hardball for the money. With Landry's restricted status and the number of MLEs already used, it appears the rockets will win the negotiation.