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Chronic: Adelman would be wise to heed Rockets' blunders

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets34Legend, May 18, 2007.

  1. MadMax

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    i could not agree more. we don't have the personnel to play that kind of game. we will be rebuilding, in a sense. i will be shocked if we're any better next year than we were this year.
     
  2. HillBoy

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    OK thumbs I'm not calling you out here but stop and think for a moment. Who's in the Eastern Conference final? Detroit - a defensive team. Who's in the Western Conference final? Utah - a defensive team. Look at the teams still playing: New Jersey, Cleveland & San Antonio. None of them are what you'd call "run-and-gun" teams so maybe, just maybe, playing defense in the playoffs works.

    And as for "the personnel he brought to the Rockets and his out of date tactics", JVG was the coach and not the GM who scouted, drafted (or didn't draft) and signed all of those players. In spite of all that he still got this team to the playoffs in 3 of his 4 years which was, at least to me, a much better situation than being a fixture in the NBA Lottery which they had been before he showed up.

    Again if you didn't like JVG, that's cool but at least be realistic about what he did or what he failed to do here.
     
  3. MadMax

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    The Suns have played an up-tempo game for YEARS now. Seriously...over 10 years. How many rings has that won them?

    Come to think of it...someone let me know the last team that won a championship that you would characterize as up-tempo.
     
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  5. McGradySNKT

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    Blah blah blah. They didn't want him back and it was apparent when they interviewed another coach. It was really apparent when he didn't get an extension earlier in the year.


    Spare me with all of these beelding heart crap stories. The Chronicle has it's nose so far up Assistant coach's behind it's not even funny. Good Riddance and I could care less for long goodbye's. He's expendable like anyone else is and he isn't the first or last coach to be ousted. He didn't get it done plain and simple and had ample time and enough rope to hang himself.


    For all of you Assistant coach goons crying that Novak wasn't good enough, he could surely have made more 3's than Rafer has he chucked up more than anyone in the league.
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Celtics & Lakers come to mind....

    DD
     
  7. McGradySNKT

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    To add on to what weslinder said, check the Miami Heat's fastbreak points once Shaq came there old and broken down. You'll be surprised.
     
  8. MadMax

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    great...let me know when i should expect larry, kevin, and robert to show up. or kareem, magic and worthy.

    the fact that you have to go back to freaking 1988 kinda speaks for itself. that's going on 20 years now.
     
  9. MadMax

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    fastbreak points? the rockets were amassed fast break points in 1994...i don't think you'd call them up-tempo. that's just taking advantage of turnovers.

    please tell me you're not saying you think the Heat were an up-tempo team.
     
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    Unfortunately, the defense, which JVG and some of fans are most proud of, couldn't stop Utah scoring 100+ pts on Rox, winning the deciding game of the series and kicking Rox out of the playoffs for the third time in last four years.

    By now, I think people who have brains should at least think about it: why this JVG's team, while always ranks at the top of almost all defense categories in regular season, can't win a playoffs series? Why his so-called top-notched defense system couldn't stop opponents from scoring in the most important game of the year, in which they absolutely had to make stops? Why Boozer couldn't be stopped and torched Rox throughout the series? Why Utah scored 103pts on Rox in game 7 and Mavs outscored them by 40 two years ago? Why can't his defense stop Phx making Rox its personal b*tch? How about the Mavs or even Warriors?

    The answer is simple: his defense is overrated. His team's defense stats are inflated in regular season because there were so many bad teams in the NBA, especially in the East. More importantly, his team was one-dimensional. He sacrificed his offense to make his defense look better. Spurs, Pistons, Jazz are never one-dimensional defense team and balance is indeed the key to win a championship.
     
  11. McGradySNKT

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    Nope. I'm telling you that balance is the key, not just one style or another.

    The Miami Heat led the league in fastbreak points in the NBA and won a ring, so that argument about playing more uptempo is as weak as watered down Kool-Aid.

    Adelman has coached a few teams and he's not stupid. I hope you guys aren't stuck in the assitant coach mindstate that no other coach ever makes adjustments because he didn't.
     
  12. blathersby

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    The only words that come to my head are "BAD LES! NO BONE!"
     
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    GOODBYE JEFF

    Les warned him before the season started to clean up his act an offense. Nothing happened. It all came to a head this playoff. Only 4 players scored one game!!! incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Goodjob Les
     
  14. thumbs

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    It's okay to call me out. Any one of the teams you mentioned is light years more athletic than the Rockets. They play better defense because they are quicker to the ball and quicker to react.

    JVG's defensive system leaked like a sieve when their opponents used quicker players. He is a brilliant coach and got a lot out of his players, but make no mistake, these are the players he wanted. The players he didn't want didn't play.
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    The rules (or rather the calling of the rules) changed over time after the Detroit grab fest badboys.....and stayed that way until just these last couple of years.

    And I would argue when was the last time a defensive team won? Most of the teams winning now have balance, not just one side of the ball being exceptional.

    DD
     

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