Chronic: Adelman would be wise to heed Rockets' blunders

i misunderstood you. sorry.

 

what a mess.

im suprised by how les is acting. If you dont want a guy back then fine, but dont go behind his back. thats just tactless.

 

I believe that Les can not fire Gundy until June 30th officially. I think it is all contractual.

IMO, this is what is what has transpired.

Last year Les asked JVG to lighten up in the press and JVG made fun of that during the year. Les fumed.

But, the team was winning and JVG was getting serious COY consideration. Les offered an extenstion - JVG refused, gambling his bargaining power would be greater after playoffs.

The team failed miserably in the playoffs partly because of JVG's lack of adjustments - Les decided to go in a different direction.

What I think will happen is that Les will hire someone else, and JVG will get paid as a consultant (Hush money) and they will part ways.

I believe that JVG's ego and his making fun of his bosses request to be more positive plays a greater role in his departure than the playoff failure.

Les owns the team, he asked his EMPLOYEE to do something and was ignored....that has to hurt....

And IMO, the team will be better with a coach who loosens the reigns a bit......loose teams win more.....

DD

 

I am 1000% support the hiring of Rick Adelman. But I think the Rockets should make a clear annoucement of its directions. I dont think there is any contract violations if they say "the Rockets have decided a new direction and will wait for JVG's contract to finish to make an annoucement" or something like that. Instead they keep on saying there's a possibility that JVG will return as coach.

Now, the Rockets is on its way to hire RA. Then suddenly, JVG kind of saying he likes to return. So, Les doesnt want to look like a villian and offer JVG a non-coaching position. What a mess!

 

This post is right on. The hating on this board is incredible. Not only does Van Gundy supposedly suck, but Richard Justice supposedly knows less about the situation than the haters on this board, though the haters have never talked to anyone in the Rockets organization in their lives, and would probably go pee-pee if they had a real conversation with T-Mac. Haters here have zero connections to the Rockets organization but they somehow know more than Justice, the same way they don't coach even high school basketball but they are supposedly so much smarter than JVG.

The world of message boards allows people to spout off like experts although they are not, with no consequences at all. Hey, did I tell you I benched 700 lbs yesterday while talking to Les Alexander on the phone about who to have as coach? (He asked me not to reveal my decision until I'm at T-Mac's Tupperware party this weekend.)

 

Now you see why your earlier posts on this were ridiculous?

Les has been exposed as a fraud, IMO, and it took a moron like Richard Justice to do it. Humiliating.

 

lol. that is sad when RJ makes someone else look like a tool

 

I know it's Bush League, Max, but keep this out of D&D, OK??

 

See I keep seeing people make this same mistake. You can't run both. JVG's defense is based on keeping the pace slow, getting back in transition, etc. That necessarily affects your offense. If Adelman wants to come in and run a high pace fine, but it's hard to run a fast paced offense and a lockdown defense - the best you can hope for is Phx. Though with the Rox current personal that's not possible.

 

Yeah, "nothing", other than exposing all of the previous conventional wisdom about htis story as a complete fraud due to Les' lies.

 

What isn't speculation is is JVG can quit before the Rockets fire him. The Rockets have asked him back but JVG has laid out certain conditions.

Obviously the delay in any announcement as Morey has more or less stated is the negotiation of those conditions. What is also true is they have no coach for 2008. The position is open, JVG is just another candidate for the position. I see no problem with them looking at other candidates.

 

Why is everyone and Richard Justice so quick to jump on the Rockets orginization and obsolve JVG from any fault in all of this?

Didn't the Rockets offer JVG a nice extension this season that JVG turned down?

Wasn't it JVG that originally leaked that he was tired of coaching to his friends in the New York media so the Rockets would publically persue him.

How many times has JVG come out publically said he definitely wanted to coach again next year? None.

IMO if JVG wanted the job he should have acted like and not claimed that he was unsure or that it was up to the Rockets. He should have come out and answered the questions with something more on the lines of a "Hell Yes" and not acted so ambivalent about it.

Maybe Justice should also report how classless JVG has been through this proccess as well. Why would the Rockets want to commit publically to someone who cant commit publically to them.

 

JVG gambled - and lost.

It is all ego at this point.

DD

 

You can play both offense and defense Sam.

You are making zero sense.....during the times you are not in transition, you use the defensive schemes.

Just because you run some high post offense does nothing to change the defense....

Yes, you will give up some more points due to a rise in possesions but that doesn't mean the scheme changes...

DD

 

2 days after the 7 game loss meet with Grumpy and tell him he can resign now or be fired, explain why and move on. That would have been a good way to handle it.

Yes, gladly. I hope I have egg all over my face. I want to eat crow next year right here on the board (DD please remind me I have a bad memory-seriously)
But honestly the 'Rick will get a lot more out of these guys' statement is scary freaky... will VSpan play more and do better, I think he will. will Snyder and Novak get more time, possibly. Will Hayes, Alston, and Howard be better once they loosen up? (that is my laughing out loud)

They are good coaches. Adelman knows his stuff. But let me frame my opinion this way...

I've watched Grumpy take questionable talent and get the most out of them for years. I don't like some of his my way or the highway attitudes, but the players seem to buy in.

I've watched Adelman take very talented teams and peater out time and time again... what I have not seen is Adelman do squat with a less talented team- one with about the same talent level we have- just look at his record when his rosters were not as good and he ends up being fired.

BTW- I am OK with firing JVG and making a change. I am fine with Adelman. What I am not fine with is the thinking that Adelman is going to take this roster and succeed. I don't have a clue how we can get better except get real lucky in the draft. Remember Howard went to the Mavs real late in the first round, Tony Parker same, even Prince/Detroit was very late. That is the kind of steal we need this offseason.

I met with Van Gundy before the season started and he personally told me four things the team needed to really make a championship push- first he told me they needed a larger athletic 4 who could rebound and relieve some defensive pressure off of Yao- not named Stromile, second they needed a better point who could score consistently and could defend penetration, third they needed a larger starting 2 guard who could get his own shot so TMac could stay at the 3, and fourth they needed a defensive stopper. After talking to him for about an hour I was convinced (or deceived however you want to see it) he really knew we had some glaring roster deficiencies and the best we could come up with was Snyder, Bonzi and Battier- (laughing again).

I am 100% certain that only Yao and TMac can make this team any better... but I don't have any idea how it will look next season... I for one am not counting on Rafer, Battier, Chucky or Vspan stepping up and being the big difference maker.

Yao is deadly close to the basket, hope he improves, I think he will.
But truth be told he is easy to defend once he steps away from the basket. Unless he starts shooting that fadeaway at about 45% he needs to stick to the low post. Keep working on his hands (catching passes), improve his moves to get position. He is slow and 2% of the time he jumps for rebounds and 2% of the time he jumps to get his shot off- that's unathletic- do you see how many times he is getting beat to rebounds by undersized and more athletic players? Yao is a great player within himself. We need to work to get him defensive help and work to get him his spots in the low post. As he improves he will develop some other ways of scoring. I think it would be good to get him some face up shots but that will require him moving more and getting off some screens... talk about wearing him down.

Williams had his way with us and it would have been a 5 game series if he was not so young and decided to hand it to us.

Boozer- I can't stand him.

Harpring- one player Van Gundy coveted for the Rockets

Okur- great 3 point shooter who is not slow and slightly more athletic than Yao.

Out bench is a joke, you just lost credibility.

The only player worth keeping is VSpan because he is a very nice slasher and will become a very nice NBA player.
I like Novak alot also... actually I have alot of hope for him.

That's what I was thinking...

I will gladly and humbly do it. Nothing would make me happier.



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Yeah, basketball is SOOOO complicated, no one can figure it out or have an opinion about it.

I mean what are we fans thinking?



DD

 

Apply for the coaching job, dude! Just ask for half of JVG or Adelman's salary and, with your knowledge, you've got it wrapped up!

 

One thing that puzzles me about all this (after reading the Feigen and Justice articles) is that the Rockets still seem to be holding out the possibility of JVG returning as head coach. Even after offering him a consultancy position in the organization.
Unless JVG is holding out with conditions, but Justice indicates this is not the case.

 

I already coach basketball, but clearly not on an NBA level.

I don't want to coach the Rockets, really, I am happy making video games.

However, don't be upset when I recognize a percieved problem and bring it up, that is what being a fan is all about.

DD

 

Consultancy = Hush money

Don't bad mouth the organization.........

I said this just after the season that the decision was made and to let the posturing begin.

JVG knows he is gone, and he is trying to squeeze as much dough ray me from the organization as he can....good for him.

DD