Chronic: Adelman would be wise to heed Rockets' blunders

adding Board fav Vecsey to Board fav RJ, here's: http://www.nypost.com/seven/05182007/sports/playing_coach_up_sports_peter_vecsey.htm

PLAYING COACH-UP HOW 'BOUT THAT?

The Rockets are about to name Rick Adelman their new coach, ushering Jeff Van Gundy out, just as Peter Vecsey reported earlier this month.

May 18, 2007 -- ENDING educated speculation that highly-coveted free agent coach Sam Mitchell may leave the Raptors for the Pacers or the Bobcats, the NBA's reigning Coach of the Year and Toronto team president Bryan Colangelo have come to terms, The Post has learned. According to a Canadian Mountie, the fully guaranteed agreement is for three years at $4 million per, a $2.4M raise.

This just in: Stan Van Gundy has emerged as the prohibitive favorite (over Brian Shawn and Jim Boylan) to replace Rick Carlisle in Indiana.

The Post also has learned the Rockets soon will announce Rick Adelman as their new coach, that more or less confirming my original Jeff Van Gundy-is-done story.

Adelman is a flawless choice for a team anchored by two superstars and two or three other key components. Never a self-promoter or one to demand players he must or must not have, he merely manages (never over-coaches) the personnel on tap and gets them to the playoffs - 14 out of 14 times as coach of Portland and Sacramento.

As expected, Van Gundy is back behind the microphone (for tonight's Game 6 Spurs-Suns telecast), where he has all the answers for everything that's wrong with the world and the game, and where his system always works perfectly.

It's interesting to note that the lone time one of his teams got anywhere worthwhile - the 1999 Knicks - is when players he diametrically resented coaching did their own thing.

 

This is an excellent good point. As least Peter Vecsey gets it right sometimes.

 

BINGO!

I cant believe the amount of people here who blame JVG. Its not his style or system that is the problem, our problem is that we dont have much talent after Yao and Tmac. Yea, lets play an uptempo style of bball and have Rafer throw up 20 shots per game and Chucky shooting 15 times per game. I cant wait to see how that will turn out .

 

Unfortunately, I think Chuck is going to be pretty much worthless for Adelman's style of play. But Adelman will certainly benefit Juwan.

 

story out of nothing?? there's absolutely a story here.

i'm not a richard justice guy. in fact, if you hit the Astros forum on this site, you'll find that i'm probably his biggest critic.

but the Rockets have absolutely bungled this thing. if this is what we can expect from the new GM, i'm not real encouraged....though i think it's probably deeper than that..i think it's the owner.

you don't start interviewing coaches until you fire the one you got. this is way too public of a business to do that. the drama that les is creating is entirely on him.

i've defended les many times here. but this is bush league. treat people right or it comes back to haunt you.

 

Heck yes, I would run JVG's defense about 80% of the time and Rick Adleman's offense......

I promise everyone free Big Macs and the Rockets to get out of the first round....NEXT year.

Oh, and Billy would be playing a LOT of PG.....



DD

 

you guys need to understand that both sides want their part

its just business, noone of them is stupid

Les wants a new coach and a new directions,but out of fairness and professionalism that JVG had with the management, they do not want to push him out just like that....well the issue now is, the more they drag it out, the more it looks weird

I think they should announce Adelman as the coach today, so JVG can say whatever he wants at ABC

 

I could give a damn less. Van Gundy is gone. Why wait until his contract is officially over? I enjoyed his personality while he was with the Rockets, but I can't say I'm too pleased with the results. He didn't earn the right to leave on his own terms.

 

wait...it's out of "fairness and professionalism" that he started interviewing for a new coach before he fired the old one?

there is nothing fair or professional about that at all.

i love how people say, "eh, it's just business." yeah...do business that way and see what reputation it earns you.

 

How is this handle inappropriately? Les wants to get rid of JVG but can't officially do it until next month, so he prepares for it by finding the one replacement that he thinks would be an upgrade. He offers JVG a job that he doesn't have to show up to and pays him the rest of his money so he doesn't have to fire him outright.

How could he have done this any better? Do you guys think he shoot tell everyone that JVG sucks and hire a new coach or do you guys want to Les to let JVG have one more season while some other team hires Adelman. I just don't how Les could have done this any better.

 

Sounds like the BS coming out of the Miami Heat when Riley replaced Stan Van Gundy. Remember when Stan said he was tired and had nothing against the Heat? He wanted to spend more time with his familiy and move away from coaching? If that's true, then why is Stan gunning for head coach of the Pacers?

 

That is the way negotiations work, the public is the last to know, but we all can read the tea leaves.

Yes - same thing is happening here, basically it is Les' team to do with as he pleases.

Will you come in and admit you were wrong when the Rockets get past the first round next year and are improved as a team during the regular season? Because I honestly believe that Rick will get a lot more out of these guys by loosening the reigns...

I think they are both good coaches, and I don't know where you get the big step above Adleman bit....Rick Adleman has had more success in the NBA than JVG has...

I am 100% certain that a new coach will make the Rockets better.....sort of like Rudy T got more out of the same team that Don Cheney had, or Phil Garner got more out of Jimy Williams old team. A new voice is needed.

Tmac is soft - got to put pitbulls around him...(Snyder, VSpan)
Yao is slow but hardly unathletic - he needs to be moved around more so he is not worn out so much banging on the low block....High post anyone? At least mix it in with is low post...say 85% low post 15% high post, give the defense something else to think about.

Agreed.

Those guys are not that great.

Williams is a good PG, but inconsistent
Boozer is a stud - I have always liked him
Harpring is a tough role player.
Okur - Well now, here is a slow footed unathletic player doing well, didn't you say that about Yao?

Help was on the bench, just didn't get developed.....WHICH I WAS SAYING ALL FRICKEN YEAR !!!!! I could see that this team needed more than the guys you mentioned and ALL YEAR LONG, I was clamoring for JVG to play his bench to try something new because I knew the team would fail in the playoffs unless they had another creator on the floor....well....I was right, and it cost JVG his job.

We should have gone to the WC finals once GS beat Dallas

I will await your apology next year, sometimes being a visionary is tough work, but I relish it.



DD

 

well, they or Les at least, did not want him there anymore...he might be trying to make it as smooth as possible for him...so he doesn't look like the 'bad guy'

but yea, it's a mess right now

 

he can't officially do it until next month?? absolutely he can. he just has to pay for it.

don't like that part of the deal?? then don't sign it! otherwise, fire the guy and move on.

 

i just can't fathom how they think this is smooth. smooth is...fire the guy and move on. give people certainty about their futures. i've had to fire a few people...it sucks. it's not easy. but it's better than stringing them along.

 

I agree, the best way would have been just firing JVG and moving along, but thats why I said, fairness and professionalism, add loyalty to it and it gets harder to get the guy out

 

in what universe, other than your imagination, are Snyder and VSpan pit bulls???

the idea that you need a leader to lead a guy like TMac illustrates the problem to begin with, Da Da. TMac has to find it himself, or this whole experiment is a failure.

 

i don't think les has any loyalty to JVG. not a bit. he's trying to clean up a mess now that he created by offering him another position.

again..i don't see this as professional. not in the least.

 

Greece

 

I'm not saying Les, its JVG that did everything right on his part during his years with Houston, I am not talking about his coaching but about the relationship within the organization, he did the right things and still does...