Chron: With Broncos' loss, Texans set to hire Kubiak

That's the difference, right there. A decent QB, with the right system, and the right coach, and the right players surrounding him, and the right weather, and the right schedule, and the right absence of injuries to key players on the team, can get to the Super Bowl and win it.....................once.

But the great QBs are the QBs that are leaders and can improvise in crunch time and make something out of nothing. Those are the dudes that go to and win multiple Super Bowls.

The best chance to get to Super Bowls and win Super Bowls is with a superior leader at QB, who has escapability and a high degree of intelligence.

 

I disagree. I think the Carr/O-line relationship took a big hit this year, with each side blaming the other. IMO, Carr lost the respect and leadership a QB needs if he's going to run a successful NFL team. I just can't help but think back to that interview when someone said Mckinney was the leader of the offense, not Carr. Not going to win too many games when your C has to lead you.

 

I'm a season ticket holder with a great vantage point for seeing plays develop, and I think the opposite. Usually, there's simply no one open downfield. Our secondary receivers are terrible at creating any separation.

Also, it's not as simple as saying "even when he has time, he still makes bad decisions" and thus determining his capability if he had time on a regular basis. The rush still has an effect on Carr even when he has 5-6 seconds to throw. He's hurrying through his progressions and trying to fit it into the first somewhat open space he finds because he's terrified the pocket will collapse at any second. You need a somewhat legitimate offensive line so that Carr's mindset isn't running scared before you can accurately make much of a judgment.

 

Carr may well develop into a top NFL QB, I really think he could be as good as Trent Green... someday. But he will never do it in Houston with 65,000 people booing his every mistake. He's lost the fans, he's lost the team and with the spectre of Vince out there he will never get them back. Even moreso if Vince goes to the hated Titans.

It may be wrong, the fans may be stupid but it is 100% the way it is.

I was in North EastTexas during the Craig Morton/Roger Staubach years. A mere mortal can never measure up to a hero.

 

The fans weren't just booing Carr.

 

Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger would lose their fans if they went 2-14. And if they go 14-2, they'll all come back.

Same here. People boo, more than anything, because the team sucks and is losing football games. If/when the Texans put together a winning season, Carr jerseys will fly off the shelves and he'll be a hero. If the Texans win games, the fans will come roaring back... like they always have and always do.

 

Depends. Denver Bronco fans are not to happy with Plummer right now, but Denver just had a great year.

 

Obviously there are extinuating circumstances, such as having four turnovers in a playoff game. There's also a heat of the moment reaction (or overreaction) in most cases. But for the most part, fans will support you if the team wins games. I guarantee you Plummer will be the starting quarterback on opening day in September and he'll be greeted with nothing but cheers from a sold out crowd.

 

Out of curiousity (and back on topic!), what do we know about Kubiak? He's OC for Denver, but Shanahan is considered an offensive genius, so how much say does Kubiak really have? Does he even call the plays and such? Or does Shanahan do that?

 

Kubiak calls the plays. It's his offense.

 

I'm so glad Gary is here...Nothing like fresh blood to breathe life into this organization...I saw that the KC OC went to Washington...It will be interesting to see how his staff shapes up...I'd imagine he'll bring someone from Denver on offense, but Defense, no thank you...

In many ways, I see a little bit of Jake in Carr...Trade the pick and get an OL and pass rusher...We should be able to pick up a receiver in free agency...

Btw, I wish I knew the answer to Major's question...

 

This is what I am hoping for as well. If not Bates, then I would like to give Jerry Gray a call.

 

I think it's a stretch to talk about winning Super Bowls with either a decent QB or a world beater at this point considering we haven't had a .500 season yet but then again, it sure is fun, yeehaw, bring on the multiple Super Bowl guy, door number two, yeehaw, dynasty baby, yeehaw......

 

Hoke is interviewing for the DC job in Tampa-Bay.

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How are Houston coaches interviewing, much less getting, jobs. It's a well known fact that the Texans had some of the worst coaching in the history of mankind.