Chron: With Broncos' loss, Texans set to hire Kubiak

Jake Delhomme - Stephen Davis
Trent Dilfer - Jamal Lewis
Chris Chandler - Jamal Anderson
Neil O'Donnell - Erric Pegraim/Bam Morris
Mark Rypien - Earnest Byner
Doug Williams - George Rogers
Jim McMahon - Walter Payton
Troy Aikman - Emmitt Smith
John Elway - Terrell Davis
Jim Kelly - Thurman Thomas
Kurt Warner - Marshall Faulk
Ben Roethlisberger - Eric Parker/Jerome Bettis
Matt Hassleback - Shaun Alexander
Terry Bradshaw - Franco Harris

Championship QBs are not about stuning running plays and extreme athletic ability. They are about managing a game, not making mistakes and making the throws when they need to be made. The great known QBs do those things far superior than the rest. Montana didn't have great speed nor was a gifted athlete (same can be said about Tom Brady), but he made all the right decisions ESPECIALLY in the clutch. All those QB's above also had great running games. Whether it be because of a great back and/or a great o-line, their teams ate up yards on the ground.

Now the question is, if you put a great o-line/running game around Carr, is he the guy that can make those decisions for you and/or not make mistakes?

I think he is. He has proven to be a good decision maker in his brief career and he can make all the throws.

Young has obviously proven he can be that player as well. The only question is if he can make those throws at the next level.

 

Now that the head coach question has been resolved, the big question is the D-Coordinator position. I have great confidence Kubiak can turn around this offense, especially with our #1 pick almost certainly an offensive player. But our defense still sucks. And I really wish we have a good teacher for our young defensive players.

 

Agreed. I think that is something that has been overlooked quite a bit so far. The Texan's defense was just as big as problem as the offense in my opinion.

 

on Houston Local Tv tonite they said two people who will stay on his staff with be coach marciano (sp) and Hoke

I like both of these guys so I am glad they are staying. Also They said Gary has been working on a staff for a couple weeks now

 

His decisionmaking IIRC was kind of straight ass throughout most of the year, though having to run for your life probably didn't help much.

 

If I were a Broncos fan
this would kind of annoy me

WE IN THE PLAYOFFS . . TRYING TO GET TO THE SUPERBOWL
and Gary is already thinking about Texas

I'm sure more than a few maybe thinking the Steelers caught Gary looking ahead

Rocket River

 

How sweet would it be to get Gibbs away from ATL and sign Bates as a defensive coordinator?

 

Great post. Great running teams make the QBs job much easier. It is much easier to throw against a team stacking 8 in the box to stop the run. Ask Big Ben.

 

I'm thinking your going a bit far with this one buddy. The world doesn't stop for Kubiak to determine his choices and given his frequency of interviewing he probably already had most of them picked.

 

No, No, Hell no.
If you go to Reliant Stadium and watch the games so you can see the entire field, you will see that Carr consistantly makes the wrong decisions. And not just the wrong ones, the boneheadedly stupid ones. He can't ever find an open receiver, he never looks off a defensive back, he inevitaibly turns into the oncoming rusher when the pocket is breaking down, he never gets the first down when he has to scramble...I mean I have seen him just p***y out one yard short. Heck, my wife thinks he's a terrible quarterback.

Now I will grant you, if you put him behind an all pro line he will have some success but who wouldn't? And how many NFL teams can assemble all pro lines? Out of 32 teams, maybe 6 or 7.

Think about this...have you ever seen a Texans offensive lineman get in a fight during the game with a man getting to David Carr. No? That's because they don't buy into him as their leader. He's just a California pretty boy that hasn't done anything spectacular to lead them.

Football is a game of passion. In the NFL every team has big strong players, it is the emotional investment in the team that makes the difference. Men want to give their all for heros. Carr has no hero in him, Vince is all hero.

And yes, I would marry him if he would have me.

 

In order to scan the field, look off DBs, and throw anything deep, any QB needs some time. That is a fact. Some need less than others, but all pro QBs need at least 2-3 secs to be able to scan the field at all. Carr doesn't have this luxury. Besides, if I were him I would lock onto AJ too. He is the only guy we have that can catch the freakin ball consistently.

 

I'm not too crazy about his throwing mechanics. Let's stick with Capers and bring in a new o.c. instead.

 

With a decent QB or even a journeyman you can make it, maybe even win it if everything else is in place: e.g., great defense and great Oline with some superior skill players. The fact few of these guys return suggest it is hard for this to fall into place however.

But now look at:
-Staubach
-Bradshaw
-Montana
-Aikman
-Elway
-Brady

Great QBs who combine skills and leadership can get you to the Superbowl multiple years even when some other aspects of those teams fall short of outstanding. Montana and Elway did it some years with some less than exceptional defenses, Brady and Montana also did it with some years with less than exceptional skill players (pre-Craig, pre-Rice, pre-Dillon). Franchise QBs will give you lot of oppertunnities you can't get anywhere else in a single player and can make up for having far less than a perfect team elsewhere.

 

I've seen that guy before.

 

That's great.

That means we'll have Van Gundy and Van Bundy.

 

You keep this up and I'll have to start wondering whether or not you watched the Rose Bowl in the nude.

Talk about waving those burnt orange pom-poms!

 

Sigh! First we get Brokeback Mountain and now this...

 

Well, I could counter that by asking you how is he supposed to check off defenders and/or go through his progressions when is he has all of 2 seconds to do something before he is up-ended by a defensive end?

I'm not saying Carr is a great QB, but (when given some time to read the defense) he has typically made good decisions.

Dang, I wish I could remember the guy or the rating system used, but there was a guy who rates and ranks the NFL QB's decision-making abiity. Carr has ranked in the upper-third (if I remember correctly) in the league. He has had more TD's to INT's the last 2 seasons. He has all the ability.

If the o-lineman don't respect Carr, that's on them and not Carr, IMO. I don't know what goes on behind the scenes, but the fact he keeps getting up play to do his job play after play, game after game after the o-line continues to fail to stop getting him crushed, they SHOULD respect the hell out of him.

 

God, I wish I knew how to quit you Vince!


The way you get respect is to earn it.

But I'm telling you, at the game where you can see the whole field, you can see Carr makes bad decisions, even if he has time.