Forcing the McGrady divorce is the best thing the Weisbrod did. If he waited till next year, he would have gotten nothing.
It was wise to find out McGrady's intentions. It wasn't wise to do it through the media, in an overly macho manner, virtually assuring that McGrady would leave. The guy is obvious making smart moves; it is how he does them that is unprofessional, disturbing and makes him look like a complete ass.
pgabriel, JeffB is right. What Feigen said in his response, and alot of us agree with, is that Weisbrod may be making good moves for his franchise. But he could've made the exact same moves AND set up a better reputation for future dealings with GM's if he had acted more professionally and dealt with alot of this behind closed doors. Think back to when he first took over as GM. Almost immediately he called out TMac, in public, and demanded a decision on his opt out. While a decision on TMac would indeed be better for the franchise, it would've been way better to demand it behind closed doors. He'd rather play his games out through the media. Weisbrod seems to be placing too much emphasis on PR and making Magic fans like him and his decisions, rather than letting those decisions play out naturally and establishing good relationships with fellow GM's.
Myparents always told me this.....A good name is better than money.....wealth. Maybe it is too early to label JW but his time on the clock is running out. He is pushing the envelope (it seems) but he will get sympathetic and favorable sentiment from his fellow execs if he does the right thing and get this whole issue over with soonest i.e. before the first of July. This deal will/may not be his last one - so he should save some goodwill for tomorrow.
So lying is doing his job!? He has told Grant Hill and Steve Francis that the deal will be official soon, but has told the Rockets and the media that they are no where near close to a deal and that he is actively discussing deals with other teams. How is that doing his job?
Agreed! Either Weisbrod lied to his players or lied to media. Either way he is a liar. Everyone can see it. Eveyrone can see how unethical he has been by pulling out at the 11th hour, by stringing along the Rockets players, Agents, fans etc as well as Orlando's own players, agents and fans. It is one thing to play the field, but you dont string someone along. Weisbrod needs to tell the Rockets that their offer is either good or it isnt and then move on. He either takes the Rockets offer or says 'not interested' and moves on.
I think the Rockets Need tell Weisbrod publicly either it hapens by Monday at 12:00pm or not at all. put him on the spot
Couldn't disagree more. Pro sports version of cutting off nose to spite face. We may be gambling on a loss by waiting, but the potential upside is worth the risk, considering the alternative. Who said getting one of the 5 best players in the game, and the youngest to boot, had to be easy? Everyone, take a deep breath.
Grunwald was much hated among Raptor fans and finally fired in April. Fans had even started a "Fire Grunwald" campaign. He will probably land with another team, but not as the GM. After the Rocket fiasco, he pursued a number of poorly designed trades and even an over-the-hill Olajuwon. Their franchise could even be in trouble. But, even so, this is different. At that time, they hadn't fielded all offers. They worked out the deal with Houston, then leaked the story in order to entertain offers from other teams. In this case, the offers were out there and everyone knew about T-Mac being on the block. There were no secrets. What Grunwald did was dispicable, but he did get a better mix of players out of the deal and no one had to wait for it to happen. In the case of Orlando, Houston is ultimately offering the best deal, but we are being strung along by someone with his own agenda that may not even include pursuing alternate deals. Both situations are bad, but at least Grunwald had some credibility. Wisebrod is brand new and appears to be pretty clueless.
I don't see how this situation is any worse. In fact, the Toronto situation was DEFINITELY worse because they went back on the deal with Houston. Orlando hasn't done that yet. Grunwald went on to make many other deals, notably the Vince Carter one. Not sure why you bring up a minor deal like Hakeem, and not the Carter trade, which was huge for them.
I'm saying that IF this deal collapses, it will be just as bad. In some ways, it may be worse because there is no way we can bring out players back. The Raptor deal resulted in a pissed off Mario Elie who still played for the team. This deal, if it falls through, will FORCE the Rockets to move, at the very least, Steve, resulting in a MUCH lower trade value for us.
MacBeth, I agree and that has been my position in this thread as well. Believe you me, I HATE the waiting! My patience is VERY MUCH being tested. But if this agony of waiting is what it takes to get McGrady then so be it. It is worth the risk to position this franchise to have Yao and McGrady as the building blocks/foundation of this franchise for the next 10 years. This is a big deal. Everyone has to see the big picture here!
I understand were you are coming from but every day we wait Fransis loses value also everyday we wait it becomes more aparent that the trade will not take place and Wiisbrod Is waiting for another trade opertunity the longer we wait the better the chance the trade won't take place by forsing his hand it will weaken his posision could it void the trade sure but at least we would know where we are
the trade will happen. All indications from everyone not named Weissass its going to happen in the next few days. You don't pull out of a trade that will give you one of the best 5 players in the league. If forced to trade Steve to another team, we'll definitely get screwed on the value.
For the sake of the Rockets I Hope your right though McGrady atatude conserns me a little his i'm better then you attude is largely to blame for Orlando's 19 win record last season Hakeem in the late 80s had very little talent around him and he was still able to win at least 40 games from 87-90 my hope is if we get him he grows up and learns to work with the rockets insted of always looking at a stat sheet
If McGrady gets here, all eyes will be on him. For YEARS he has talked about wanting a good low post player. He will have one in Yao Ming. It will be up to McGrady to produce. McGrady will have A LOT to prove after last season and I suspect he will answer the doubters.
