Dude im not playing the race card so dont put words in my mouth. Im sayin call the guy what he is and thats a quarterback.
If if's and buts were candies and nuts what a merry Christmas we'd all have -Bob McNair- I was wrong about invading Iraq, but I was right about Vince So you can trust me with the big decisions -Dubious-
Because calling him a good QB is almost like admitting he was wrong, especially compared to our QB situation right now.
LOL - You are comparing something I was GUESSING about as an answer to a rumor to the fact that Vince raises the level of play from his teamates... Nice try, but not even close to the same thing !! DD
Nope, I'm just saying that people who have a tendency to be spectacularly wrong shouldn't be piling on others for the same. And your "GUESSING" line is a bit revisionist, no? You told me it was a "no brainer", and essentially thought me a fool for disagreeing. I even got a "SHEESH" *and* a "COME ON" in the same post, iirc.
LOL - I was taking a crack at the August 1st rumor, not at all saying it was accurate...whereas this is me saying that Vince elevates the play of others and is a leader. Do you disagree, or are you just in here being a butt? DD
Yea thats what sucks. He should be a man and give Vince his props. The guy is only a rookie and is better than Carr already. Leinart is too.
I'm sure this has been brought up before, but I still can't help but think of that stupid line Casserly said to try to justify picking Mario. Something along the lines of "we're trying to build a team to beat indy". And what did VY do his second game against them with comparable talent around him? God I'm so glad that dip**** is gone.
This is not on Casserly at all. He had pretty much nothing to do with the draft, except for contract negotions. keeping Carr was McNair and Kubiak's decision, the only reason he hired Kubiak was because he said he could turn around Carr. VY - 1-1 vs. Indianapolis (lost by 1 pt @RCA Dome) Carr - 0-9 vs. Indianpolis And both have bad teams around them. I look at the decision to not draft VY and stick with Carr, and no matter how many times I think about it, I still can't believe we did it. It was completely unfathomable and inexcusable to make that decision. Mario over Reggie Bush is understandable, although it was another dumb decision. But not drafting Vince, just makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Pretty much the whole mess the Texans are in is due to Cassie's ineptitude. I agree that he had very limited input in the last draft(if at all), but it still made my skin crawl listening to him talk about it even months after the draft. I still have no problems passing on Reggie. I think in the position they were in, it should have been either VY or Mario. What I am pissed about is how long it is taking to determine whether or not Carr is a viable qb, after he got a fat franchise qb contract and after they exhausted their options to get a viable replacement. It's not like they didn't have plenty of wasted seasons already to try to see what he was made of. People seriously suggesting Jeff Garcia?? barf.
O.k anybody can say this after Mario has a good game and VY a down game. Let me go on record now as saying Mario Williams will have a significantly better career than Vince Young. Ya'll can save this one up to posterize me for a classic moment if it works out that way. But I don't think it will.
Maybe if VY joins a circle jerk of Carr and the Texans offense a little of his mojo will come over to them.
Man are you going to be wrong. Barring injury Vince Young will be the BEST PLAYER in the NFL within 3 years. DD
See my new signature. It doensn't matter what Mario does, he is never gonna have the kind of impact a guy like Vince will have/ is having in his rookie yr. It was a stupid pick, evrybody knew it. However, I wouldn't go as far to say he wil be the BEST player in the NFL. I think he will one of the best in 3 yrs, wait till he learns to read an NFL defense - scary, but there are still so many great players in the league. The Bradys and the LTs and and Mannings are still around, and Vince is gonna be right there with them in a few yrs, but not there yet. And that Titans team is improving bigtime, don't be surprised if they end up making a Dolphin run like last yr and be a playoff contender next yr. They have Vince, Henry and LenDale White, Bennett and Givens and some TEs and some players on defense, Keith Bulluck, Chris Hope, Vanden Bosch. They are improving, and we are still sucking balls.
The Texans Played it Safe The Signed the player they could sign before the Draft The Texans were LAZY and PLAYING IT SAFE They absolutely did not want to negociate after the Draft they simply took the 1st guy on their board that would sign before the draft PERIOD They did it with DAVID CARR over PEPPERS they did it with MARIO over Bush They did it Signing Carr who they had . .rather than try at Young and negotiate with the man Mr McNair .. that is the way to do business. . but that is not NFL Business you will one day have to draft a player and THEN negotiate with them Rocket River
Yea it will be plenty of that Sunday for VY. He may not put up crazy stats but he's just a winner and a leader. Gonna be funny to see Carr getting out played by a rookie.
