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[Chron] Turner withdraws from coaching search

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mickey_angelo, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. sirbaihu

    sirbaihu Member

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    Turner found out that Morey's front-runner is the IBM Deep Blue supercomputer.
     
  2. Shaud

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    So what great defensive stoppers are sitting on our bench to replace these guys?
     
  3. JLOBABYDADDY

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    Good for him! Morey and Les can't just go around crapping on coaches. Damned if you win, Damned if you lose. No one can coach under those circumstances.
     
  4. JuanValdez

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    I think there's more going on here between the Rockets and Turner, specifically, and it has something to do with "player development." My suspicion is based partly on this quote from Rick Adelman after extensive conversations with Morey on how they'd go about improving the team in the future:

    It sounds to me like Morey wants to make a significant change to the way the assistant coaching staff works to develop players. Adelman didn't think a change to his assistants was necessary because he thought they did an okay job on developing the players they had. Obviously, this was a pretty serious roadblock to Morey and Adelman continuing to work together, or else Adelman wouldn't have complained about it. And, since it is about the assistant coaches, I think Turner either takes it as an affront on him, or else that this new structure would make working as a head coach bad for him. But notice that Sikma, whom Morey said would also get an interview, has not pulled out. Why is Turner turned off, but not Sikma?

    I think there've been conclusions drawn in this thread that don't make sense to me.

    * Might want to follow Adelman to his next gig: Turner thinks he's ready to be a head coach. Adelman is campaigning for him to be a head coach. I don't think Turner would want to turn down a head coaching job to continue to be an assistant, no matter how awesome the new team is. There are only 30 of these jobs out there, and they come with much more responsibility, respect, fame, and money than assisting does.

    * Might want to inherit Adelman's next team after he retires: That's too much of a gamble. What guarantee does he have that the next team will want to promote him when Adelman retires? It's not very common for that to happen. Would he really sacrifice several years as a head coach for the chance to later be a head coach of a team that might be better (but could be worse)? That's irrational.

    * Loyalty to Rick: Everyone knows he wants to be a head coach, and Adelman has already recommended him to Morey. It wouldn't be disloyal for him to take the job.

    * He doesn't like the way the Rockets roll: Maybe. But, again there are only 30 jobs and they are highly coveted. It is especially hard for assistants to break in and get a head coaching gig. It would have to be a pretty serious objection to the way they operate. At worst, he could get this experience and then parley it into a better coaching job later.

    * He's not a serious candidate: I don't see why not. Every indication I've seen points to hiring a younger guy, not a retread of an established coach.

    * He sees greener pastures elsewhere: Interviewing with a more desirable team shouldn't preclude him from interviewing for this one. He needs as many chances as he can get to land a head coaching gig. Even if the roster was terrible, these jobs are not easy to get.
     
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  5. emjohn

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    Don't see the big deal. Adelman's assistants are getting interviews out of respect, neither are/were really candidates.

    Adelman will coach again, with the lockout determining how soon, and will bring along most of his guys.
     
  6. Tom Bombadillo

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    This sucks. I would love to see Elston Turner stick around to coach the offense, while Morey brings in his own giant staff of development experts for Thabeeter, Patsquatch, Squid, Dragon, Chill, Boodinger and our new dleague guy that can jump 50 inches.
     
  7. gucci888

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    Good post. Turner was #1 on my wishlist so I'm disappointed with his withdrawal (whether he was a serious candidate or not). But I have to think it has to do something with his view of the Rox front office. With only 30 teams and a ton of candidates, I don't think Turner is gambling on taking over one of Rick's teams or that there are better teams elsewhere (let's not forget that he interviewed for the T-Wolves job last summer).
     
  8. baller4life315

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    Disappointing news. Turner was the guy I wanted.

    Oh well, give me Sikma then.
     
  9. Don FakeFan

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    Turner has been seeking for the coach position for years since he joined Houston.

    Someone who is looking for a job rejected the chance of working with Rockets?

    It is definitely not a good sign.
     
  10. AggNRox

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    say again. hope this time you understand better. although effort is not only piece good defense requires, it is the most important key to play good defense, especially a good team defense. ppl tend to look for a stopper. it's dangerous to start with. it could trap you into think your team won't be a good at defense coz you don't have a stopper.
     
  11. josephnicks

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    this is like Michael Scott withdrawing from the job opening at corporate..
     
  12. DieHard Rocket

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    I don't think he was going to be a finalist anyway. If they're looking to move in a different direction from Adelman, what are the chances they are going to hire an Adelman disciple?
     
  13. thetatomatis

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    Oh well. He missed a opportunity to coach one of the few NBA premiere franchises in the league. Others will jump at this opportunity. Having a shot to be part of a perennial winning franchise will look intriguing for alot of guys looking to get their chance in the NBA and have success while doing it. Not to mention we are closer than other losing franchises usually start others off from.
     
  14. Smokey

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    Hold up. Does Adelman know how he got the job from JVG?

    Why does Adelman get a pass? What goes around, comes around.
     
  15. DCkid

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    What are you talking about?
     
  16. famicom

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    Smokey and 4/20 comes to my reasoning
     
  17. thegame_2234

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    JVG head up the best
     
  18. JuanValdez

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    What makes you think they want to go in a different direction? Morey says Adelman did great work here. It seems to me that the disagreement was over: (1) player acquisition strategy, (2) how much say a coach should have over roster changes, (3) approach to player development. I haven't seen much indication of displeasure on Adelman's game strategy, his offense, or even his defense. So, if Turner came in and ran the same read-and-react offense, but played ball on player development and was willing to roll with the punches on all the horse-trading, I don't see why he'd be objectionable to the franchise.

    (PS. For the sake of player relations and PR, Morey should stop calling players 'assets' and instead refer to them as 'horses.' That should make everyone much happier. :p )
     
  19. heypartner

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    Uh oh. That sounds like a great idea for a new thread. "They are Horses, not Assets"

    Speaking of which, Morey should stop calling the next rocket coach a "candidate" and start calling him a "guinea pig."
     
  20. rju1986

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    Assistant coach's have it made in the shade. Also, maybe he does not want to look foolish if he tries and pulls the same offense but fails? My vote is for SVG!
     

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