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CHRON: Tracy once again PRAISING yao!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by t_mac1, Feb 4, 2009.

  1. MD_in_Training

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    If the only other alternative is letting Yao go 11/25, then yes.
     
  2. durvasa

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    If Rafer went 7 for 20 on three pointers over the course of a game, that wouldn't be so bad in itself. The problem is if you're taking a lot of 3-pointers (which would be the case if Rafer got off 20 of them), that means you're giving up a lot of long rebounds and probably aren't getting too many offensive boards (less second chance points, more fast break points allowed). You also probably aren't drawing too many fouls. So, there are clearly negative side effects in taking too many 3-pointers, even if the production from the field is decent (in that case, equivalent to about 53% shooting on 2s).
     
  3. jVgOwnsYou

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    Actually, arent missed three pointers the easiest to offensive rebound. They usually result in long rebounds so positioning doesnt really matter and that gives the offensive team an equal opportunity to go get it.
     
  4. durvasa

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    The guy who used to post analysis at CountTheBasket (currently a Rockets employee, I believe) did a study on this:

    http://www.countthebasket.com/blog/2008/03/29/rebounding-by-shot-location/


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    Long 2s have the worst offensive rebounding rate. Shots in the paint are the most frequently offensive rebounded, and three pointers are somewhere in the middle.
     
  5. jVgOwnsYou

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    Yeh that makes sense. I would think that a Yao fade away or hook is more difficult to offensive rebound than a three point shot conscidering you have one of your best offensive rebounders taking the shot.
     
  6. durvasa

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    True. But beyond second chance opportunities, my concern would also be stopping fast breaks for the other team. If you're taking a lot of 3-point shots, particularly from the wing or top of the key, then often that shooter will be slow getting back defensively. How often do we see a 3-pointer shooter take a shot while his man contests and immediately leaks out? That's another thing to consider.
     
  7. conquistador#11

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    did someone say la bamba?


    It's all about yao, but what abooout meeee? ma
     
  8. jVgOwnsYou

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    I agree with you. We're actually horrible at chasing down long rebounds especially with yao in the game so what may be an easier offensive rebound for the rest of the league becomes a difficult one for us. And you're right, if we dont get the long rebound, teams know they can run on us.

    Our main offense is obviously Yao Ming, but the three point shot is pretty key, and we have to make the open looks. When we hit our threes, were very very hard to beat. If you look at the 22 game win streak last year, we were taking and making a ton of three point shots. I'd like to see our winning percentage when we shoot 40 percent or better from beyond the arc, I'm sure its atleast at 70 percent maybe higher.
     
  9. MacSauce

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    I agree, i think yao should be taking 20 shots a game with his high FG%. i would also like to see t-mac explode but its better to save his explosiveness for the post season.
     
  10. Lonestar

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    :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  11. badgerfan

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    T-Mac with 20 shots tonight, almost twice as many as the next player...
     
  12. bob718

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    All the talk, no walk.
     
  13. t_mac1

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    if you think he's the problem, oh well. he took most of his shots in the 3rd when yao obviously wasn't himself and went to the restroom twice.

    he took only 2 shots in the 4th dude.

    but unlike you, you probably think offense is why we lost :rolleyes: . check the D. interior D is soft like cheese. and our perimeter D is penetrable.
     
  14. leonking

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    What did I say? Tmac 21 vs. Yao 11 = Rocket lose

    Whenever Tmac says someone should get 25 shots every night, he actually say to himself.
     
  15. morris520

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    I think Yao and Tmac are pretty much like O.K.
    One in the paint and one out of the paint. Who should lead the game?

    I will miss the pick & roll they played 2005 against Dallas in the playoff. Tmac was core in those game. And M.M. were playing just like dual-core. But now they are chaos.
     
  16. the_hustler

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    hah.. FAIL ..you are a joke man.

    Yao was in and out of the game due to his stomach pain. tracy was basically carrying the team on that stretch.. and now you complain abt his shots..
     
  17. leonking

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    That's exactly what Tmac was thinking. He will continue carry this team by shooting 20 times a night and say something like "Yao should get 25 shots every night, bla bla bla"

    This is Tmac's team. Yao was, is and will always be the second option until Tmac leave.
     
  18. the_hustler

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    did you watch the game?

    how can you pass the ball to Yao when is not even playing? He was holding on to his stomach in that period...

    when Yao was back.. everyone went to him. so don't blame tracy for this.. period
     
  19. EssTooKayTD

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    Come on man...criticism is all good if you make sense. Right now, you make none.
     
  20. leebigez

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    What ur math isn't telling u is if yao is 11/25, he's probably drawn a few fouls because that what will happen. Also your math isn't telling u how many fastbreaks are started by those long misses either. Sometimes u just have to watch the game.
     

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