[Chron] Tmac tweaks ankle, hints he might miss games.

see i was with the ppl saying T-Mac should sit out until he's healthy at the beginning of the season...now we're 11 games in and he's worse...WOW

 

I think he should have rehabbed it all summer, but since he didn't, he needs to rehab it now.

DD

 

What did the team gynecologist say? Just playin

 

I wonder how many on here have ACTUALLY had any kind of knee surgery to even post and make opinions. I've had surgery on both knees, both were "minor" arthroscopic procedures and the recovery time is far more extensive than people think. Sure, in 2-4 weeks you're able to go out and do physical activities on it without the fear of re-injuring it or causing injury to some other part of the body, but it takes a long time to build up the strength in the joint again (remember the knees bear all the weight in our bodies).

Mentally though is where it takes MUCh longer. You're worried about jumping off of it, landing on it, twisting, cutting on it, planting with it, getting it hit, etc, etc. It's a mental "hiccup" that is just there for a long time.

I had cartilage taken out of my right knee and I was out playing in a flag football league within a month. But, it took me a good year before I was ever physically and mentally recovered.

I had the inside of my left knee cap shaved down due to wear and tear of the joint on Jan 2nd of this year and, though I was out lightly playing ball in a couple of months, to this day it still feels funny at times and at times I feel like just "shutting it down" for a while. Some days are good and the knee feels like it did when I was 18. Other days I feel like I'm playing on one leg.

It's incredibly frustrating.

This is TMac's first knee surgery. I think it's commendable at how he is playing with it right now. Everyone just has to have patience. By the playoffs, we'll see that great player again. Trust me.

 

Holy Toledo batman...This guy has the worst luck...granted, he's been injury plagued for a while, but I thought it wouldn't happen this early...

Then to have Yao and Artest injured..WTF...

 

Anybody see the difference between Tracy's 2 legs when he was limping off. One is twice the width of the other. It shows how much atrophy took place during the re-hab.

I've wanted to trade Tracy for years, but we waited too long. He is still a great player when healthy. We should rest him as long as necessary to build that leg back up. If we get him back a month before the playoffs it will give him time to get in a flow. Maybe it will even allow him to be fresh and able to explode toward the basket again. We are not a better team without a 90% healthy Tracy. We are a better team without the current Tracy.

 

Fair points Mogrod, it sounds like you had a lot more extensive surgery than Tmac did, all he had were some loose bodies removed, same thing I had....

But you are correct some days it is great others, not so much, but still we play on....



Rterry,

That is exactly my point, Tmac did not rehab it at all this summer, he took the summer off, and now he is struggling because he did not work it out and get through this ALREADY....

While Yao was running in the pool, Tmac was lying on the beach.....

DD

 

Thats a great question DD, what if the MRI shows nothing. I hate the fact that T-Mac shows his opponents that he's hurting so bad. He needs to shut it down, I'm tired of seeing him gimp around with a half hearted effort every other game. He helps the rockets big time when he's attacking the basket, when he's not he is not nearly as effective and sometimes a liability with his bad shot selection (fade away jumper to bail out his defender). Even if the MRI shows nothing its probably still better to shut him down so he can get his head on straight. I hate to say this, but maybe the trainers need to stop rubbing Vagisil on his knee and go with a different treatment.

 

Is early rehab possible after a surgeory like that on his knee? I thought they do need to allow the knee to regain some strength first before rehabbing takes place.

 

Tracy doesn’t want to play anymore. A few years ago during the playoffs he said that he wanted to play baseball, and that he would retire after his contract is up. It’s obvious that he has no motivation. He always talks big but never follows up.
I don’t know if there is anything we can do either, not a lot of teams want him because he is always injured plus it would create quite the stir if we did try to trade him. No team will offer what we think is a fair trade because we as Rockets fans and Rockets management still see him as the super star that played in Orlando. The fact is Mcgrady is on the decline, he will never be a super star caliber player. This doesn’t mean he won’t have a good stretch every now and then but he will not be what he was back in the day. We are stuck with him whether we like it or not, he will be a Rocket until he retires. Its fun to suggest trade ideas and look at the possibilities but I don’t see it happening.

 

I can't speak for Tmac exactly, but we started rehab 7 days after the surgery, and I followed it religiously.

I played Hoop 3 weeks after, and was my old self 6 weeks after that...so 9 or 10 weeks I was fine.

The knee still feels a bit different but I think that is in my head.

The point is there was no reason that he didn't rehab in the summer....he should have come into camp ready and in shape...imo.

DD

 

If Morey manages to trade T-Mac for someone good, Morey will ascend to basketball god status.

 

I sometimes wonder what will happen when Tmac's contract runs out. He said he would retire before, but who knows. If we can make it to the WCF or the NBA finals in the next two years. That could change his tune, and when his contract runs out resign at a discount. Fortunately if he DOES retire, I think that puts us under the cap enough to grab a decent player to support Yao and Artest (and if Artest doesn't get resigned then we might be in the running for Lebron,Wade, Melo, etc).

 

Agreed i had an acl reconstruction and some meniscus cleaned up, which is much worse than what he had. at 8 months i was playing within some limits. didn't really get my strength back until 10 months after surgery but rehab started 7 days after surgery.

 

I propose a slight variation to your thought. Early in the season I saw Tmac put his head down and drive into a crowd to score. He did it several times in one game and I don't recall him ever playing like that for the Rockets. I said to myself if this is the Tmac we get we will do very well this year. Well he seemed later not to be so intense. And he had a couple of games were it seemed more his heart wasn't in it than anything else. Not denying his aches and pains only I think Tmac needs an MRI of his heart.

I believe Tmac can still contribute at a high level and wants to in 22 game win streaks, National tv games, the playoffs and a few exceptions. After that it is hit or miss to his contributions. Last night was one of those hits. He wanted to play against Durant. He wanted to show the young boy who is still the boss in town. After he went down he was eager to get back in the game. When Coach denied him that opportunity he threw an internal hissy-fit. After insisting he was fine to reenter last nights game he brewed and did a 180. Now he has switched to premaddonna mod. How dare they not allow me to reenter the game. Let us see how they like my absense a bit longer.

He is in "absense makes the heart grow fonder" mod. Similar to last year when he had his mystery injury while rumors of trades floated around and miraculously healed as we started winning without him and the trade deadline neared. So there is no doubt in my mind even with a few aches and pains he can still contribute at a very high level. My variation to your question would simply be whether he can play versus whether he wants to play. Today he doesn't want to play and prefers an MRI. Tomorrow brings another hope his MRI will show he needs a heart transplant and Bill Russell or John Havilicek is willing to donate.

 

I can't speak on the surgery and recovery time, but I'd like to also remind everyone that I don't think anyone here plays professional ball and all that comes with it. Just sayin'.

 

I have no doubt that he can play, If he wanted to he could be right up there with Wade, Lebron etc. but you are right with him needing a MRI of his heart. He has the skills, but he has the heart of a 7 year old school girl. I think if he did not exaggerate his injuries or give up every time something doesnt go his way that he would be the "Kobe Bryant" that we need. I think we would be the ones talked about instead of the Lakers.

 

steve francis time!

 

Funny. Because if one thing is clear after these seasons with Morey... Its that hes old his soul to the Devil for the players and talent. The Devil cursed him with injuries.

 

He also had shoulder surgery. Might be why he took it easy on rehabbing the knee. Who knows, but we aren't T-mac so it is hard to say what he should of done.