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[Chron] TMac is getting it from all sides

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Dec 28, 2008.

  1. jump shooter

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    Of course they don't run his offense effeciently, Adelman is coaching a Mash unit and he doesn't know from one day to the next if his best player is going to play and how he's going to play. My opinion maybe dramatic to you and I want to see T-Mac succeed in the worst way, but I will not change my opinion in thinking that T-Macs feet finally need to be put to the fire. In my opinion he needs to be pushed and at this stage in the season he's going to need a big push.
     
  2. jump shooter

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    Do you remember when Yao came back towards the end of the season 2007, he played in the playoffs with very little effectiveness and he was rusty and out of sync. You have to develop some chemistry as a unit with regular rotations and momentum going into the playoffs. At least 30 to 40 games like A3PO was stating.
     
  3. Nick

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    He still had some pretty good games down the stretch, and the series wouldn't have gone to 7 games without him. I don't think anybody was blaming "chemistry" as the reason we lost that series... more like the inability to guard Boozer-Okur with any effectiveness, and not having enough bodies off the bench to counter Krilenko/Harpring/Giricek.

    And as far as Adelman coaching a "MASH" unit... you really think T-mac is the missing link to instilling his high-post offense? Its not... Yao simply doesn't have the quick-thinking/high-twitch muscle reactions that are needed to be effective in that offense, and he's proved it over and over again.

    Thus, Adelman has scrapped it now two years in a row at the expense of Yao succeeding where he can the most... in the low post.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Which offense? The Sacremento one, the Golden State one, or the one he ran in Portland?

    If you think Tmac is fine the way he is we will never agree, he is a talented underacheiver mostly because he doesn't have that Kill to win mentality.

    DD
     
  5. Nick

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    The one that both you and Adelman were drooling over before he took over as coach. The one he said would save Yao from banging down low, and take advantage of his court vision and height. The one that he's tried to implement with the starting unit two years in a row, only to scrap it around the same time each season (zero high-post sets for Yao the last week)

    Little did everyone know that Yao needs to be slow/methodical in his decision making, and is better served simply getting the ball down low and putting it in the hole.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    They should still run some of that....did you see how predictable and easy it was to shut Yao down in the 4th quarter last night?

    If he even moved to the high post for just one or two possession it would change everything and open it up.

    No one ever said to run him in the high post a ton, just mix it up, give the defense something else to plan for or against.

    DD
     
  7. Nick

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    Yao got plenty of good looks in the 4th and overtime... but his FATIGUE slowed him more than what the Jazz were doing defensively.

    If Yao gets the ball with good postiion in the low-post, he's nearly unstoppable. Giving it to him in the high post creates a degree of difficulty for both him and the offense that is painfully obvious to anybody watching... and basically gives the defense a break from defending him.

    They're much better off going to Artest in the low post if they need to "change it up", like they did in the 2nd OT. Regardless, Adelman wasn't looking to implement the high post as a "once every now and then, change it up" scheme... the amount of lip-service both he and the houston media gave it indicated that he really thought it would be an integral part of the team, and its non-existant right now.

    Its not being run for a reason, and Adelman has decided that... even if you think they should still do it.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    It is still being run, just not in the 4th quarters.

    DD
     
  9. Nick

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    Maybe he gets the ball away from the low post... but mainly because a play isn't being called for him. Other than that, Yao has been in the low post 90-100% of the time since the Orlando game. Also, he's not being asked to be a playmaker from the high post anymore, ever (which was the idea).

    Adelman does need to work on his minutes a little more so that he's not so gassed in the 4th quarter, where its Yao low-post all the time.

    I'd also like to see some Yao-Rafer, Yao-Brooks, or Yao-Artest pick and rolls... to get him some easier looks.
     
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    Its comical that with Adelman's arrival, everone was psyched about the new, high powered offense that would follow. Yet,

    - rafer alston is still the starting pg who adelman has favored over mike james, aaron brooks, and steve francis

    - almost uses Yao exclusively in the low post

    This is EXACTLY what JVG did.
     
  11. MadMax

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    :D precious
     
  12. DaDakota

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    You guys making fun, who was on the low block in the 2nd OT, with the offense inverted?

    That is the Rick Adelman offense.

    DD
     
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    Yao was still down low as well on the opposite block... not feeding Artest (which is what a true inverted offense would be). That was more the Rudy T Charles Barkely offense, than anything RA conjured up

    And the only reason he finally gave in and went to Artest was that Yao was physically unable to cross half-court any more on some sets. It should have happened a quarter earlier.

    And there was absolutely no cutting, no movement, no anything once the ball was fed into the post (hell, even JVG and Rudy has some movement). Who's offense was that?
     
  14. Yetti

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    All I want to see is everyone healthy at Playoff time
    - no excuses accepted! :p
     
  15. rocketshopeful

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    right, because JVG could run that inverted offense with.....boki? v-span?
     
  16. rocketshopeful

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    or better yet juwan howard
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Sure he could have....what is your point? My beef with JVG had nothing to do with this discussion.

    DD
     
  18. DaDakota

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    Look, I am not going to defend the stand around offense...that sucks, do you honestly think that is what they were supposed to be doing?

    DD
     
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    its more about your blind defense for adelman.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    I am not defending him at all, I am very frustrated with his lack of playing Brooks more and Alston less.

    I am just willing to give Adelman the same chance I gave JVG about 3 years....he is only 1 year in...

    DD
     

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