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[Chron] The first question Gary Kubiak will hear today: Who will be the No. 1 Pick?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Rockets34Legend, Jan 26, 2006.

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  1. codell

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    Agreed. But IMO, it is absurd to hold your loyalty hostage if your favorite player is not on your home town team (if the home town team had your loyalty in the first place).
     
  2. MadMax

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    i'm not holding anything or anyone hostage. it's the way i feel. it just is. i'm not calling the texans telling them i won't be as interested in their product...or that i think they're making a huge mistake. i'm not doing any of that. i'm not making threats...i'm simply sharing how i feel about it. i could lie and say otherwise if it makes people feel better about it.
     
  3. MadMax

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    probably. but not from the area of town VY is from. you had an entire area become horns fans...many who never gave a damn about the university of texas before he was there.

    but all that's hypo. he did win a national championship. he was the best player on the field. he did wear it wearing a texas jersey. he is a hometown boy. to act as if we live in a football bubble where none of that is taken into consideration is absurd.
     
  4. MadMax

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    i'm saying it's an extra. i'm saying if you're looking at VY and RB and comparing the two...if they come up equal on the field...then the off the field and other criteria come into play more strongly than they would otherwise.
     
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    If you get a chance to talk to him, please tell him "thanks" for all the work he does with Sunshine Kids. I've seen how much it can mean to these kids, it's really unbelievable. And tell him Ben Ostdeik says "Hi!".

    Chance, I know this is completely unrelated to the thread, but frankly I'm bored to tears with the whole VY-RB debate. You might find this article interesting:

    ndustry revenues more than doubled in the wake of the strike, from 1994’s $1.9 billion plus to 2005's projected $4.5 billion.
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    It was an outcome almost impossible to expect in the depths of the ’94 strike’s crisis, but fans quickly returned to the game. The most remarkable aspect of the game's attendance surge was the fact that so many returned so quickly- 1993’s record 70.3 million plus in MLB attendance was surpassed by 1998, and crept steadily upward for year after year. By 2004, the new attendance record was over 73 million, with 2005 expected to shatter that figure by two million or more. Those spectacular numbers have been boosted by record attendance related to the playoffs, the Minor Leagues, Spring Training, and the Hall of Fame, as well as powerhouse media ratings.

    http://www.unitedstatesofbaseball.com/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=66
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    its just rooting for a sports franchise people. who cares why someone roots for a team.

    but as far as the topic is concerned, we've all seen the shot philly fans booing when they picked donovan mcnabb. are those people not real fans, they showed up to the freakin draft. and I'm sure they love donovan now. but just because they didn't like the pick at the begining doesn't make you a better fan than them. MadMax has season tickets. how many of you calling is position "absurd" have invested in the team like he has. some of you guys need to chill.
     
  7. codell

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    and who probably won't give a damn about UT now that he has left
     
  8. MadMax

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    some won't. some will. those who didn't bought the jerseys and pennants and t-shirts just the same.
     
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    None of it should be taken into consideration by the Texans.
     
  10. DonnyMost

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    If they made statements like "I'm never going to cheer for Philly again, Go Steelers!" because of it, then yes, they are crappy fans.

    And if they turned around and started cheering for Philly when Donovan was ripping up the stat sheets and leading them to Championship game after Championship game, then they are total freaking chumps.
     
  11. MadMax

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    it's still a business. there's no way it can't be taken into consideration. they'll tell you it won't. they'll tell you it's entirely a football decision. just like hiring someone in your office....but if the candidates are equal, the guy who grew up on your side of town...who graduated from your university...who was buddies with guys you knew...that guy has a distinct advantage.
     
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    it should not be that way
     
  13. MadMax

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    that's what's funny about all this...it's ME saying this. i'm homer extraordinaire. seriously...i'm a homer and a half for the rockets and astros. apparently i'm not for the texans....i hope to be someday. but i'm not yet.
     
  14. MadMax

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    we're human. it's a human process. all other things being equal..that's the way it is.

    we can let a computer make the decision...but until then, these factors can't/won't be ignored entirely...no matter how hard we try or how much we protest that they don't.
     
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    You proved my point.

    "It's still a business"

    The Texans don't have any heart-strings to be pulled on here.. unlike your Madison high school graduate or UT fan.

    They will do what is best for the team in terms of winning, because despite what Chance thinks, winning with some dude from China makes people just as happy as winning with some dude from Sugarland.
     
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    you're a "real fan" the rest of us are chumps. congratulations. you win
     
  17. DonnyMost

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    It's a new franchise that has largely sucked.

    The only "memories" we have are David Carr jumping over the Jags pile for the win and beating the Cowgirls.

    It might take time for them to win people over, but turning your back on them because of a draft pick is insane.
     
  18. pgabriel

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    the texans offensive line is awesome. I have no opinion. they must be, the team chose them. I'm a real fan.
     
  19. MadMax

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    i said all things being equal.

    again..the assumption i keep hearing from those who are so strongly in your camp is that Reggie Bush equals wins.

    i'm saying VY has the potential to win as much as RB does. and i'm saying there are other factors which push him over the top in my view.

    i wouldn't let david carr keep me from getting at either player, frankly.
     
  20. codell

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    from the Texans standpoint, I think they want to attract fans by having a winning franchise and not fans who will be gone when certain players are gone (although any fan support i am sure is a bonus at this point)

    if the Texans believe Bush will make them a winning team, moreso than any other player, then thats what they have to worry about

    in the end, more fans are going to support the team because its a winner, than will just becuase of one player
     
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