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[Chron] The first question Gary Kubiak will hear today: Who will be the No. 1 Pick?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Rockets34Legend, Jan 26, 2006.

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  1. Rockets34Legend

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    Should we just rename the Texans to the Houston Longhorns when we draft VY - since we will be gaining so many Longhorn fans?

    Or should we just draft Bush and stick with Carr and call ourselves the Houston Texans - and let the real fans come out of the woodwork and support their team, even if they suck?

    Just curious...
     
  2. swilkins

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    If Vince is available at #3, the Titans should jump all over it. He's already McNair's under-study. That would be awesome. Then we get to kick Young's butt twice every year.
     
  3. gr8-1

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    Sounds like that will brighten up your day.


    He wouldnt' be the first nor will he be the last to have that happen to him.


    I don't blame the Texans for taking Bush. He's a good looking player, though something tells me he's not 6' 200 pounds.
     
  4. DVauthrin

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    I'm so sick of this crap. Drafting Vince has little to do with the fact he played at Texas. It has everything to do with the fact he proved in the biggest stage possible that he was the best player in college football, at the most important position in the NFL. The fact he is a hometown legend is icing on the cake. Do I like my Horns, yes. I am an alum. But as I said earlier, it's because Vince, and DJ last year were elite prospects period, why they should draft them.

    Also, again, I would like to hear an answer about whether people think bush or davis can handle being a 2nd WR full time, because if not the two players do not really complement each other at all. And Davis would net you much less in a trade than Carr, for the simple reason of scarcity at the QB position.
     
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    I'm just not sure that's gonna happen with Charlie at the helm.
     
  7. swilkins

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    He'll be traded for extra picks, before that happens.
     
  8. HillBoy

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    That may very well be but the key thing to remember in your post is that they will "win" with VY. If for whatever reason it's 2 years down the road and they aren't winning with VY, while say RB is lighting up the league at Tennessee, then just how many tickets and no. 7 jerseys do you think they'll be selling then? Fans are fickle and the very same guys that I hear today calling into the radio and tearing Carr apart while going "gleep" over VY will be the same guys b****ing about how VY can't transform the Texans into a winning team.
     
  9. HillBoy

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    DaD is not annoying - he's in LOVE! :D
     
  10. Rockets34Legend

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    Texans Fans

    Longhorn Fans

    Two different realms....

    I'm not a Longhorn alum or a fan. Don't follow college football much until the bowls arrive and the NFL draft comes up. I just want to see who my team picks to improve the squad.

    I'm a blue, red and white blooded Houston Texans fan.

    I'm glad to be in the position we're in.

    I will not give up on Carr. I think we haven't seen his full talent. With a coach like Kubiak, things will change around here (I hope). Better OL, better defense, and better coaches. You guys will see a different Carr with Bush and Davis in the backfield.
     
  11. DVauthrin

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    How are you going to use two similar players in the backfield? You have to use one of them in the slot almost every play to make it work and while they may be good at RB catching the ball, how good are they at essentially playing the 2nd WR spot.
     
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    That's cool; especially since you admit it. Me, as someone so eloquently said, I just want the Texans to kick ass.

    Cool. Me, I love Houston. So, aside from "loyalty," I want teams that are from Houston--all of them--to kick ass. Hard. And take names. Just because they're from Houston. But, that's me.

    Cool. Again, it's Houston I'm partial to. And Texas, too, with the exception of Dallas (because we all know that's not Texas). :D When the Earthquakes begin playing here, I hope to see a W in the box score when I open that joke of a sports section in The Chronicle. Because they play in Houston now, baby.

    I like other franchises and all, even the Titans, but everybody's a second fiddle to anybody from Houston.

    Respectfully, this is utter bs. It's not a marriage covenant, dude. Nobody "has my heart" except Jesus and my wife.

    I just don't think loyalty is an appropriate concept with something as trivial as sports teams. I want Houston teams to win because I love Houston. Loyal--I'm loyal to the USA. If they'd let a fat guy, I'd go fight in the war right now. I'm loyal to my wife. I'm loyal to my God. But a sports franchise? I just want to see the Houston ones win. And the SA and Austin ones, unless they play Houston. El Paso, San Angelo, Laredo, and Kingsville are fine, too. And Round Rock. And Corpus. And Nacogdoches. Just not, well, that other place. But, I digress...
     
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    Chance - Nice post, and I respect your stance. I overreacted when I first read your post and how you were going to become a saints fan.
     
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    Crap, left out College Station and San Marcos. And Lubbock. But you catch my drift.
     
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    I agree with Chance as well
    I had left the NFL
    when the Oilers Left

    I was learning to Like the Texans
    but
    I do not have a Galvanizing moment with them yet
    I have not CONNECTED with anyone on this team


    Rocket River
     
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    I'll be happy if we draft Bush he's a great player ~ with Vince though I think he's just once in a lifetime.

    Great times for Texan fans. :cool:
     
  17. reggietodd

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    The future is so bright for the Houston Texans right now. I've always been a big Mike Shanahan fan, and we are getting his understudy to lead this team.

    Kubiak played in Denver as John Elways backup, he played for Dan Reeves, he's been to the superbowl numerous times, he spent a short time with Steve Young. He knows denver's offensive line blocking scheme that has been so effictive even with smaller guys, his running backs always produce, he uses tight ends effectively and utilizes play action. He helped Jake Plummer make the pro bowl somehow. If he can do that with Plummer, no doubt he can get Carr going. I was disgusted with Carr this year, I could not stand watching the guy, but then I think back to last year and even the year before and Carr was not bad, not bad at all, he was improving every year until this year. Get a good coach in there, some new attitudes, better blocking scheme, and put some weapons around Carr and we are in business. Kubiak always wanted this Texans head coaching job, he has all the experience mentioned above and he has the passion to coach this team. He knows how to win, he's a winner.

    We have the number 1 pick. I trust Kubiak and Mcnair to do the right thing with it. I would say the same for Casserly, but he's goofed in the past. During Matt Jackson's interview today he asked Mcnair how much are the picks on Casserly and how much on the coaching staff? Mcnair said that the coaches tell Casserly what type of players they want for their system and he does his best to fill that. So, I am blaming Dum Capers on our crappy picks over the past few drafts. I am not a Dum fan, was never a Dum fan, he doesn't impress me, not one bit. You put a decent defense out there, play conservative and don't turn the ball over, sure you'll win a few games, maybe even be .500 one year, but that won't get you to the superbowl. Dum is a good defensive coordinator, but he doesn' thave the intelligence to run an entire football team.

    I personally hope we get Reggie Bush, but if we don't i'll still believe we are doing the right thing because I trust Kubiak. He knows what it takes to win, he knows what pieces need to fit into the puzzle, he knows the ingredients to a winning formula. VY is a badass and he proved it in the Rose Bowl, but I'm still sold on Reggie Bush. I still remember before the rose bowl, I remember the Bush bowl, the heisman race, I think this guy is amazing. Just the thought that he may be on the Texans one day caused me to Tivo some of the USC games this year. I have the Fresno game, notre dame, and the rose bowl. When he hits the hole or accelerates, it honestly looks like someone is pressing fast forward. With Kubiak's offensive imagination, there is no telling how many ways he will utialize Bush, the possibilites are endless. And the thought of it, is exciting.

    Aside from the 1st overall pick, if i'm not mistaken I think we also have the 1st pick in the second round, along with 6 other picks in subsequent rounds. I can see them building the defense and possibly the O-line with these picks. I can also see a handfull of Denver's free agents following Kubiak to Houston. Houston is a good place to be. Great owner, new stadium/facilites, great coach, and hopefully an excellent 2006 Draft. Houston is a very attractive place for free agents right now, hopefully we'll get a few. I've even heard, although its a stretch, but John Elway may come help out with the quarterbacks & possibly become the quarterbacks coach. How sweet would that be?

    I'm a Texan fan, but like many of you have mentioned before, i'm not a die hard. The Texans haven't given us anything to be die hard about. But I think this is the turning point for this team. We had a horrible year. Adversity builds character. This team now has character, there is only one way to go but up. If we lose fans based on who we decided to draft, it won't be many, but there will be a handfull of longhorn fans and Madison high fans that we may lose, but once we start winning and once we have an offense that doesn't put people to sleep, we'll gain even more fans and hopefully the ones we lost will come back. The Texans are on their way up and we, the fans, have so much to be excited about.

    Sorry about the Novel, but i'm pumped! Go Texans.
     
  18. Blatz

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    I agree except for that once in a life time bit, I haven't sipped the 610 kool-aid yet. Not that you have, I just think both will be great players. I'm still not sure who I want.
     
  19. Rockets34Legend

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    That is what I meant. 1 in the slot and from his college career, he has good hands to catch the ball. Bush will be a threat wherever he is on the field.

    Jerome Mathis seems like he can fill that 2nd WR slot with his speed. Gaffney could and he showed he can play when AJ was out, but I don't think he's the man for the job. Or we could find someone from the draft or FA. Either way, we will find someone.
     
  20. gucci888

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    Mathis doesn't exactly have the best hands to be a 2nd WR option. Gaffney played better this season. Bradford needs to go.
     
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