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Chron: T-Mac sits until he can be worked in (Coach unsure how to distribute minutes)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Dec 26, 2009.

  1. Rocketsmith

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    Easily could of took 10 minutes from Ariza and Taylor's 5 minutes. At least give him a look and definitely go with the player that is performing the best. Ariza probably needed to sit some of the last few games (8-38) instead of T-Mac.
     
  2. Easy

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    Good point. I agree. I meant "health" in the sense that the knee was probably not an issue now. I think TMac feels comfortable with his knee. But he might have lost his explosiveness. He may or may not be able to regain his former physical abilities.

    I just wish TMac had a better attitude. He is fast becoming like Allen Iverson.
     
  3. jump shooter

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    Looks to me at what their trying to do is make Tracy play as a role player within the offense and not the go to go at which Adelman feels he's not at that level now. I agree with Adelman. He wants to do this with the least amount of negative impact on team chemistry. Its going to take Tracy at least 40+ games at a minimum to get back into a go to guy type form. The little rockets are around 3 games out of first place in the southwest division and Adelman isn't going to take his eye off that right now. They need to keep bringing Tracy along slowly as the current team is not dependant on him being on the court right now. The latter part of the season may be a different story, but the team needs to stay the course.
     
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    If this is true then he just wont be able to play Yao Ming!
    Incorporating Yao back into the Adelman Rockets Yao will need definite changes in the style of play!!
    The quote re McGrady sounds like a bare faced lie by one of the most experienced coaches in the NBA today!!!
    Damn the team, damn the fans, I'm Adelman & I am in charge I just don't want McGrady on MY team, infact I don't wan't anyone who is a star player who may upset the chemistry of my over acheiving role players.
    Infact Kevin Martin if you come our way just don't expect to get the ball because you are a great scorer and that also goes for you also
    Yao Ming!!!!:mad:
    Morey keep things simple- no first round picks while I am here!
    only will only play players who have no aspertions of being a star player or expects star treatment!! :mad:
    These are my impressions and I sincerely hope that Adelman doesn't think this way!
    At the moment I getting very bad vibes from our coach and hope his actions and staterments don't harm the Rockets reputation. :p
     
  6. DaDakota

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    It ain't the coach Yetti, he had no issue with star players like Webber and Bibby, Drexler, Porter, and Peja....they ran his system, played hard on both ends and had major success.

    Stop looking elsewhere for the problem....the problem is squarely on the guy unwilling to subjegate himself or his game for the good of the team.

    DD
     
  7. Jeff Who

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    Ok. Now tell me how come you are so sure that Tracy will not run Adelman system. It is a possibility, though.

    But it can also be that he actually WILL run the offense. It is 50-50.

    So far he has just asked for more minutes.
     
  8. emjohn

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    With Chase out, I definitely advocate more of a "read and react" approach with Tracy. A regimented 7.5 minutes taking place across the exact same timeframe between the 1st and 2nd quarters isn't optimal.

    Against the Clippers, Tracy absolutely deserved a second shift in the 3rd quarter. With all the back-to-backs and a lack of bodies in the swingman rotation, he's been needed.

    What's critical is that the Rockets hold firm and not just hand over his starting job and role. McGrady keeps wanting everything to come easy and automatically, like last year. He's demonstrated that he will gripe about his touches and shots even when he's not able to make good. That can not happen again.

    I would roll out a more flexible plan. Guarantee a minimum amount of playing time (5 mins) with a promise to play him as much as 20 minutes if he's got it going on a given night. Make it crystal clear that his defensive effort counts just as much as his scoring, that his hustle and facilitation of others' game are a bigger deal than his shooting.

    Put him in a position to succeed. Don't trot him out with 4 minutes remaining in the 1st every game. Tie his minutes to a favorable matchup. Sic him on Peja in the two upcoming Hornets games. Hold him back against the Lakers unless Adam Morrison shows up or the game starts getting out of hand. Have him dog Grant Hill in the second half of the Suns game. Give him plenty of time against the Knicks, Bobcats, and Wolves.

    This is a good stretch coming up to work him in. It's a good stretch for McGrady to prove that he deserves more time. But it is absolutely on him to earn. It's on Rick to optimize the situations McGrady sees.
     
  9. verti89

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    Everybody seems to be getting on either mcgrady or adelman so I guess i will choose mine..

    firstly don't get me wrong, i think mcgrady's behavior last year was ridiculous and pathetic. BUT i think his handling of the playing time he was given over those 5 or 6 games was good. The last game or 2 he was clearly getting more aggressive and trying to show he was ready for more. I understand not upsetting the chemistry and balance, but when we were getting spanked by Orlando, and when we are putting in Mike Harris or Jermaine Taylor, or when Ariza is channeling Rafer Alston, it seems like the only logical decision is to give TMac some more time.

    They are saying he isn't ready, he thinks he is, rather than just say it, why don't they let him play more and prove either himself or them right? Your telling me a somewhat slower TMac is less helpful than a guy who just signed with the team a couple days ago?

    I'm sorry it just comes off as Adelman not wanting anything to do with TMac and he gave him the fewest amount of minutes he could. Maybe, he can't help the team if he plays more than 7 minutes, but there certainly has been and will be times for him to try.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    No, so far he has not done all that they need him to do on the floor, and then spoke about needing more minutes in the media.

    See, Rick Adelman is trying to teach this team how to play together, to win, and play hard night in and night out.

    Tracy has not earned any playing time, right now, he is just not as good as most of the guys in front of him.....is that fair? No, but it is what it is...he just doesn't have the speed and quickness to keep up.

    But, Rick started playing him anyway, and told him to run the system and get back on D.

    Tracy did OK running the system on offense but on D, pretty much mailed it in....most nights.

    But even that was not the straw that broke the camels back, it was him talking to the media ...AGAIN.....

    Tracy has no respect for Adelman, and thus the team....therefore he is not on board yet.

    At some point, Rick just has to go with his guys...regardless of contract.

    And honestly at 18-12...can you blame him?

    Who needs the headaches that Tracy brings? And right now his game is not good enough to overlook the baggage......so....he sits.

    I applaud Rick for being the leader that this team needs....

    DD
     
  11. emjohn

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    Because he's strongly resisted doing so each year they've been paired together. Because McGrady had to be removed from the situation for the system to stick. Because he's in a contract year and his first priority is to demonstrate that he can still be a 20 ppg scorer.

    It's a little more odd that such a segment of this BBS think that McGrady will become something he's never been.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    It is downright frustrating that people think he will somehow turn into Peja like and run the system.

    That is not his game, never has been, and probably....most LIKELY never will be.

    That is why I asked the question name one player that has been a dominate the ball scorer that changed to an off the ball player...

    DD
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Jerry Stackhouse.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    Yeah, that may be the one guy........but even he only had a year or two of the success Tmac had as "The guy"....

    Grant Hill was another.

    So, do you honestly feel Tracy will be able to subjegate himself and play the team game in a year in which he is trying to earn a new contract?

    See, I think that is the overiding factor, if Tracy had 3 more years, I think he just might do it....but not this year, this is a contract year and he needs to prove himself to get a new contract.

    I think the stars are misaligned for this to ever work out.

    DD
     
  15. Mr. Clutch

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    I think Tracy has the ability to, but for some reason he hasn't.

    Clyde Drexler and Michael Jordan both became great off the ball players.
     
  16. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    We don't need guys to sit out there and shoot treys - we got those guys.

    It's clear what Tracy brings to the table. The question is how to integrate it into the team. If done successfully, it makes us a much more dangerous team. Adelman knows this, Morey knows this, and T-mac's team mates know this.

    Everyone knows it, but know one knows how. Adelman and Morey and smart men, if anyone can get T-mac to get on board and make it happen, it's them. It seems they are willing to keep trying. They see the opportunity.

    Unlike you, they have yet to give up. I am going to put my trust into them.
     
  17. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I disagree. A post threat will make this offense hum even better.
     
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    From what I gather, Adelman never said that McGrady couldn't fit into his system. He said he would continue to play McGrady 7 to 8 minutes per game, but was unwilling to increase it beyond that. McGrady's the one who forced the issue, not Adelman.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    I trust in them too.......

    I just don't believe it will work because of the contract situation and Tracy McGrady's fragile ego.

    I mean it COULD work, if a guy that has had major personal success over 12 years playing ONE way could suddenly change his entire game.

    But....uh......the odds are way stacked against it.

    DD
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Then why are they still trying to make it work? Obviously the have a bit more hope than you do, no?
     

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