Chron: T-Mac relieved at dismissal of any Kobe scenarios

hopefully TMAC will drop 30-50 points on kobe just to show him off....

 

Yea that would be good. Damn Tracy can easily play like Kobe, I mean he can be such a scorer. Now under Adelman he'll get more chances to score, he'll be different.

Yao will show Bynum what means Real NBA. Damn that young guy said it will be a fantastic season for him. We'll see...Maybe not since the 1st game

 

EXACTLY. People fail to realize that Kobe blew a 3-1 lead and is saying Tmac doesn't know how to win games. I do agree that Kobe has a "better" winner's mentality, but to say Tmac doesn't have any desire to win shows your ignorance.

And to all Yao ass kissers: stop making antagonizing Tmac at EVERY SINGLE opportunity. I've never seen any TOF's act like you guys.

 

he used to be the best offensive player when he was with orlando. he will return to at least top 3 status this yr if all he does is look to score.

in the last 3 games, tmac didn't look to create much and only for his shot, which is good. he'll pass if he's doubled or his guy is open but adelman, by the way tmac plays, wants tmac to look to score every time.

 

again, ppl questioned peyton manning's will to win EVERY PLAYOFF GAME before he won last yr. that's why they didn't put him next to brady.

winning is the thing that separates tmac from kobe.

now that he looks to score, i won't be surprised if tmac looks to outscore kobe in the first game since nobody except him or bonzi is getting the offense right. we might depend on those 2 w/ yao in the post to get us through the first few weeks

 

Orlando was Orlando, no wins. Here he has guys who can make plays, especially after that offseason. But that soesn't mean he can't beat Kobe in season opener.

Last year he was thinkin' first to "pass". Now he is wanted to think first "shoot" than pass. We have another guys around who can pass the ball to Tracy and Yao. They do not have to worry.

 

orlando tracy = lakers kobe right now. except orlando tracy can get at least 5.5 assists.

now tracy won't get even 5 assists it seems like this yr but he'll be fresh to start and end games

 

Agree. Kobe is in that situation when Tracy was several years ago. Kobe was in Tracy's situation several years ago.

I remember last season. We were thinkin' Tracy's healthly, he's back again on the court in a great shape. And do you remember? He sucked, really. He couldn't score more than 20 points on 40% FG.

Do not expect the same this year. We're gonna see new Rockets, forget about preseason.

 

Reading this thread represents a sad day for the BBS. Now that I just found out what "YOF" and "TOF", etc stands for. The "YOF's" are really showing out nowadays with all the Kobe talk. The McGrady hate is ridiculous. Why dont u "YOF's" sit in a corner and suck your thumbs...... or something else......

 

T-Mac will get 5asts this year in this system. It's not a system that gives a PG heavy assist numbers. I feel we could see about 3 players with over 4asts/game.

Remember Orlando T-Mac would assist to the likes of Darrel Armstrong, Gordan Giricek, Jerryl Sasser, and Drew Gooden. Compare that to Kobe assisting to Lamar Odom, Luke Walton, Smush Parker, and Andrew Bynum. I prefer the latter.

 

Agree. Espacially yao_fan_2007. He ain't even a fan. He just wants to blame Tracy in his every post. That's all

 

i know this suggestion will lead to incessant flaming, but i don't care.

it's been accurately pointed out time and again what pros/cons each player rumored-to-be-traded brings to the table.

that being said:
1) basketball is a business
2) you don't get something for nothing

i like what Morey's done with the team over the summer, but one must always be looking to improve the team through whatever means necessary. i love tracy as much as the next guy, but tracy has a ceiling, a ceiling which was all-too-apparent during the playoffs, even though he was 'healthy.'

given what other teams are pitching for Kobe, it's clear that LA wants:
1) star power, to keep people in their seats
2) to get rid of their garbage player(s)/contract(s) (Like Kwame)
3) youth
4) veteran stability to fill in the hole(s) Kobe will create by leaving
5) security (specifically, they don't want their new players to bolt)

other deals on the table include one straight-up with Chicago, one three-way with Chicago and Phx, and one three-way with Chicago and Sacto. let's just look at the Chicago deal.

1) Ben Gordon - contract has not been extended, may bolt; NOT a superstar
2) Tyrus Thomas - def. valuable, but still raw and very young
3) Joakim Noah - too early to tell, still very raw
4) Ben Wallace - huge contract
5) Kirk Hinrich - likely won't be included
6) Luol Deng - will NOT be included

LA won't do the trade unless Luol is included; Kobe and Chicago won't approve the trade unless Luol is NOT included.

if the trade gets done somehow, the supporting cast will include: Thabo, Nocioni, Duhon, Joe Smith, and Hinrich. in other words, nothing great.


on the other hand, let's say Houston were to get involved.

1) TMac - yes, he's an injury concern, but has been fine since seeing Dr. Patterson in Waco. has a superstar draw even though he doesn't necessarily play like one anymore. is great for the Rockets system/atmosphere, but will not take us to the championship b/c of his lack of a killer instinct. still has 3 years, so will not be able to bolt if he gets traded.
2) Mike James - can play 1/2, has veteran presence, decent defense and good offense. can take Kobe's spot in the Laker's line-up, with TMac filling in at the 3. the Rockets will miss his spark off the bench and at the 1/2, but hopefully Bonzi and Kobe will be able to fill those needs.
3) Luther Head - good, young shooter. is locked up for 2 years. bottom line is that he's young and still improving. one of the best 3pt shooters in the L (average-wise).
4) Carl Landry - raw, undersized PF. obviously has a way(s) to go, but down-the-line could definitely be a contributor. in this scenario, he'd basically be the token PF in the trade (to take Kwame's spot).

for

1) Kobe, and
2) Kwame - unmotivated crash-and-burn project. LA would love to dump him, and would likely groom Landry to be everything Kwame wasn't.


again, the NBA is a business. there are plenty people in Houston that respect Kobe as a basketball superstar but despise him as a person. there are more people that fear how he'd co-exist with others, including a star like Yao. we've seen Kobe in the All-Star games and in the Olympics. he plays within the system, and plays on BOTH ends of the court. he's had to take all the shots in LA b/c of his supporting cast (which is kinda his fault to begin with).
you don't get something for nothing, and you have to give up something good to get something good in return. in this case, it's a matter of giving our best talent, a veteran, and some of our youth for the Best player in the NBA and a burn-out/garbage player.

if we did this trade, here's how the teams would pan out:

LA
1) Fisher/Farmar/Mike James/Head/Crittenton
2) Mike James/Head/TMac/Vujacic/Coby Karl
3) TMac/Walton/Mo Evans/Radmanovic
4) Odom/Turiaf/Cook/Landry
5) Bynum/Mihm

Houston
1) Rafer/Kobe/SF3/ABrooks
2) Kobe/Bonzi/SF3/Kirk
3) Battier/Bonzi/Kirk/Novak
4) Hayes/Scola/Kwame
5) Yao/Dikembe/Kwame

just b/c of the sheer number of players, i think it keeps LA pretty competitive, and at the same time, i think it helps us get that much closer to being a championship team. with Yao, Battier, Hayes, and Scola, i think we have enough of a core to go deep during the playoffs.

it wasn't easy trading away SF3, Cat, and Cato for Tracy, Juwan, and change, but Tracy alone made the deal worth it. this will end up the same way.

 

Morey said T-Mac would stay. There is absolutely no way this trade is going to happen. T-Mac is staying in Houston, and it's better for the Rockets !

 

That's right. T-Mac looks really good with his game, jumpers, drives and health.

 

yao_fan_2007 is to the GARM as NewYorker was to the D&D.