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Chron: Rockets tuned in to Redick

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by mikezamir, Jun 4, 2006.

  1. johnkamla

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    Get Redick, get Mike James back with the full MLE, sign Padgett with the Veterans Exception (if we have one, I'm pretty sure we do), and we will be a team to be reckoned with.

    We don't have to match up with Dallas - let them worry about matching up with us. :cool:[/QUOTE]

    My goodness. You read my mind. Those are exactly the moves I would make. Those are very possible transactions, not pie in the sky like some posters make up. Plus we get a potential contributor with the 2nd round pick - Novak, PJ Tucker, James White, etc. I think we'll be golden. It was very encouraging seeing Miami go all the way because of what it means for us as a team.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    You guys are late to the party, we have been saying that same thing since early in the thread......duck falllas !!

    Make the rest of the league bend to a Yao and Tmac team.

    DD
     
  3. DaDakota

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    I don't see anyone arguing it as a reason to get him, just that it seems that some people's opinions might be affected by it.

    DD
     
  4. Panda

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    If Brewer was white, my guess is people would compare him to Dan Langhi. Skin color has to do with stereotypes. That's what happened to Yao and now Redick.

    I would say Redick's realistic chance is to be a poor man's Ray Allen, both 6'5" with short arms and lights out jump shooters. Redick will be less athletic and come up with less boards and assists, but still a QUALITY, VOLUME and VARIETY shooter. When those three qualities are combined, it's gonna be hard to just ride the bench unless an all star is starting. So don't mix Redick up with guys like Steve Kerr or Mike Gansey.

    On the other hand, will Brewer develop a consistent shot that earns respect from defense in the NBA? Maybe, maybe no. People throws out Shawn Marion in the hope that Brewer develops a decent shot with bad form, well, the fact is there's ten Bo Outlaws for one Shawn Marion, and neither Outlaw nor Marion shoots with a deformed arm. Shawn Marion also developed his shot in the college. We are in desperate need for talent so Brewer is a welcome addition, but what all these fuss is about? Fans hype up Brewer by the Athleticism Hype machine that generated Kwame Brown, Micheal Olokwandi, and Stromile Swift in top 3 lottery picks, plus Kelvin Cato's big a$$ contract. While they're at it, they just write off Redick like he'll just be an NBA bench warmer.

    One thing I like about JJ is his mentality. He's always harrassed by profanities on the road and guys calling him up at late night to say that he sucks, even saying his 12 year old sister will be f##ked, Redick responds to these negativities by pouring 3s on their court. The kid is tough. Like a poster here said, if you like Sura, why not Redick? It's imperative to sign Mike James, and it's ideal to get Redick, with their shooting and attitude, they are the fuses to set off the tranquil liquid explosives named 111.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Hear hear !!!

    Redick is going to be a VERY good player, and the Rockets would be foolish to let him go, IMHO.

    You don't let a guy who fits in so perfectly with your team's needs just go to another team, if you have the chance you take him.

    DD
     
  6. gucci888

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    Redick has a more realistic chance of being a Steve Kerr than Ray Allen.

    How can you even compare Brewer to a Bo Outlaw? And please name the ten "Bo Outlaws" you are speaking of. Outlaw is a PF that never had to develop an outside jumper.

    Marion had a 30% 3-pt average in college, the only 2 seasons he shot over 30% was in a Junior College, he shot 29% at UNLV. He shot 18% 3-pt his rookie year in the league and got it up to 39% in his 3rd year. He's been a steady 35% 3-pt shooter ever since. He developed his shot in the NBA, not college.

    And even if you want to argue that he did develop his shot in college, that is even better news for us pro-Brewer guys since Brewer was a better 3-pt shooter in college than Marion. He shot 40% just 2 seasons ago and 34% last season.

    Fans are hyping up Brewer much more than just from his athleticism. In fact, that is one of the fewer things I hear about him. The guy is a defensive player that can drive, pass, handle the ball, and is a good shooter.

    Look at the players you mentioned above, do you see a difference between them and Brewer? Not only are you comparing 4 big men to a SG, those guys wouldn't be seen all that bad if they weren' #1 and #2 overall picks (not Cato).
     
  7. leebigez

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    So not only does T-Mac have to be the best offensive player, but he also has to cover for the other guy because he cant hold his own water.
     
  8. Outlier

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    Longest thread on a draft prospect ever?
     
  9. Stephen1616

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    I was just about to say the same. I can't believe this thread is still so popular.
     
  10. leebigez

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    Why do you think Trajon Langdon is in europe? What is his race? I dont dislike JJ, i just think I've seen this movie before. It has nothing to do with skin color or anything it more about being able to break your man down and get to the rack against the most atheletic guys on the court. That explosion is one of the reason why Wade succeeds despite being a small 2 guard. Wade has long arm and his first step is 2nd to none.

    We as Rox fans must look at reality. I think we have to really good star type players in Yao and T-Mac. Yao still haven't proven that he can be dominant for 82 games and 37 mins a night. He showed flashes last yr but only played half the season. Tracy needs to stay healthy and when he is, stop settling for jumpers and draw some fouls and get to the ft line more. I think getting Mike James would be very good and move Rafer to the bench. Sign a guy like James Jones for a big shooter off the bench or even a guy like Posey to either start or play in front of a guy like Brewer. I think a combination like that keeps the quick and atheletic, defensive and long. So now when team try to go small on the Rox they can matchup and still play. Thats just my 2 cents.
     
  11. Amel

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    posey? jones?

    I'll rather stick with the 8th pick and bring in Redick

    can't wait to have him play in the NBA

    and then so many of you guys can stop with that crap that he is not going to make it...

    guy can shoot, and I mean shoot...he might even have the potential to become an allstar
     
  12. leebigez

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    Just for the record posey has shot 40% from 3 in the regular season and playoffs while James Jones has shot 38% in the regular season. You say you want someone to knock down 3's what wrong with having quality depth at the 2/3 spot? What wrong with having Brewer,Tracy,Posey,and Jones all at that spot if nothing else in case of injury. Ryan Bowen should never,ever be on the floor.
     
  13. Pistol Pete

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    Is there any truth to Redick failing his physical in Orlando at the predraft camp because of his back? Geez, just want we need another player with a bad back.....
     
  14. themocitydon

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    rockets will be idiots if they draft reddick with the no 8 pick :mad:
     
  15. don grahamleone

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    I wanted to address the question of "What will Redick do when teams don't leave him?"

    Answer: Nothing. That is what we want. We want a player that commands enough respect that defenders can't leave them. Then 111 do their thing. That's all this draft pick needs to do. Defense is a team game. Offense is a team game. If teams double or sag, we make a three. If teams don't help out on Yao or Tmac, Yao and Tmac score. What happens when they miss? Not everyone is perfect.
     
  16. don grahamleone

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    There were over 1000 posts previous to this. Why would you join in and not provide any reasoning? No one wants to read anyone's opinion, it's already been posted.

    So, why would the rockets be idiots for drafting redick at number 8?
     
  17. Amel

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    how old is posey, 30 something?

    I don't mind Brewer, but I'll take redick over posey and jones together at any time....

    Time will prove, redick is going to be clutch....
     
  18. Diaw

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    because there will be better players available ???
     
  19. terse

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    Good post. I have always liked Redick as much for his creativity, intensity, and guts as for his shooting ability. No matter how crushing the pressure was, he never quit. He might have been stopped by LSU, but he never quit. I like that.

    We all know about the Eddie Griffins and Stromile Swifts, two guys with all the athleticism in the world but no fire inside. We don't need a third example, do we? This is why I am not sold on Carney. It's also why I'm troubled by reports that Brewer sometimes didn't exert himself in college. When the balance of skills is as close as it is between Redick and Brewer, I would prefer the player who brings it every game.
     
  20. hooroo

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    duke struggled against dribble penetration, but they had shelden there, who took care of business. that deficiency was catered for at duke. the rockets will be different we all know opposing guards use their quickness to get yao into foul trouble especially with the help he has.
    it's also hard to compare the rocks to teams like detroit and the spurs. their frontcourts of horry +duncan and wallace+wallace allows them the luxury of offense-heavier guards. our guards have to be more blue collar and play d.

    the negative posts on redick are probably more of a reaction towards a certain poster. i don't think anyone really thinks he will be a bust. imo, his best chance of starting in his rookie season would be a team like utah.

    then again, with jvg looking at this patrick beilein guy. maybe that suggests they're going to fill the starting sg position through trade/fa and draft redick as a jon barry replacement?
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=114055
     

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