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Chron: Rockets tuned in to Redick

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by mikezamir, Jun 4, 2006.

  1. Mav-Hater

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    Again, can we leave race to Nascar?
     
  2. Rockets Dynasty

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    Every time someone mentions some slow unathletic stiff it is a white player then they say that's Redick.

    Look you can argue it all you want, if you won;t admit race plays into it fine, call it ignorance, because it's like saying Yao would suck because every other chinese big man sucked.

    That's the argument MANY people here are using, read the posts and actually try to make a sound argument that isn't true.

    Like I said no one could even think of a black player like Rush who fits the mold they claim redick is, because Rush is black so it never occured to them, because all they can think is Redick is some slow short unathletic white stiff.

    I guess people like Stephen A. still calling Yao soft after last year aso has nothing to do with race.

    I have seen post after post that sure smells like I don't want a white dude on this team and will be pissed if the Rockets draft a white dude.
     
  3. krosfyah

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    It's actually nearly impossible to shut down a shooter with a team containing Yao and TMac! If they try ...GREAT. That means Yao and TMac are probably open. You can't double team 3 players.

    I'm not saying we HAVE to have Redick. I'm just saying he is a viable option on this team if he is the BPA #8.
     
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  4. rocketsregle

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    They don't have to rotate off off Redick to double team Yao and TMac. They can double team off another player. So just because Redick is on the court doesn't automatically mean there is a sure open shot for him.

    Teams don't necessarily have to make a game plan for Redick but good defense will take the luster off Redick as an offensive player if he is unable to contribute without taking volume shots when he is having an off-night or being defended intelligently.

    This scenario might not happen with regularity in the regular season but you can be sure it will be a factor in the playoffs were games mean more.

    If the Rockets choose Redick I will disappointed but o.k. with it because they would have done the research and I believe they will make the right choice. I just think Brewer is the BPA at 8 but that's just one bbs poster's opinion.
     
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  5. Outlier

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    I find it funny that all of Rockets Dynasty's 279 posts, it has all been about Redick.

    What is more hilarious is that he had 80 of those posts today and yesterday. Funny, but kind of sad.
     
  6. Storm Surge

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    is he JJ Redick?
     
  7. krosfyah

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    Have you heard of set plays? JVG has.

    Lets look at a pick-n-roll between TMac and Redick. Who do you cover? Lets hear it!

    In case you can't visualize it, let me set it up. There are only two defenders on that side of the court. Yao is under the basket on the weak side and the other two players are in the corner so they can't collapse on anybody except maybe Yao.

    So when TMac gets the pick by Redick, are you going to let TMac get to the rim cause that defender doesn't want to leave Redick? Or will you bring Yao's guy to cover TMac? Not. The two defenders in the corner are too far to rotate to the pick-n-role.

    Tell me coach. How do you cover this with another defender?

    Up to now, we haven't had a guy to hit that shot if they collapse on TMac except maybe Juwan.
     
  8. Yao#1

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    Enough of the should we shouldnt we draft redick at 8. Rumor is that Orlando and Houston are considering swapping picks. Would people be okay if we could trade Juwan and #8 for Darko and #11 and then draft redick. He should be there at 11. We still get a player we had a good chance of drafting at 8 and get a big man with some range although darko still needs time to develop.

    I think swift, darko, and hayes could man our 4 spot for the time being. Maybe we even draft a 4 with the second round pick. think orlando would be willing?
     
  9. Outlier

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    Orlando would NEVER do that. Why in the blue hell would they take Juwan back? And they are in love with Darko.
     
  10. gucci888

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    Who will set the pick? A 6'4" 190lbs JJ Redick? You primarily see bigger players setting picks for the pick-n-roll because it is much harder to go around a 6'10" 260lb player rather than a player Redick's size and when you switch, you usually have a mismatch.

    I see your point but you rarely do you have small players set picks, they're just not that effective at doing it.
     
  11. rocketsregle

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    I am not denying the the above scenario has in the past been successful but you can't deny that your scenerio can be nullified by simply letting Tracy and Yao have theirs and staying with everyone else. It has been done in the playoffs. Just having Yao and Tracy scoring by themselves will not bring a win that has been proven.
     
  12. gucci888

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    To his defense, they are very good posts, such as:

    "JJ Redick is almost as athletic as Dwyane Wade."

    "An average defender could hold Shawn Marion to 8ppg."

    :D
     
  13. Yao#1

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    What about Stro instead of juwan. They may really like darko, but teams have done crazy things to move up a few spots in the draft if there is someone they really like. As for taking juwan back, the only reason they do it is because there is a player they really want and know the only way to get him is to also take juwan. Isnt that what the rox did in the mcgrady deal.

    If not Darko, who could the rockets be interested in, that Orlando would be willing to give up. And please dont say deshawn stevenson in a sign and trade. Im not saying orlando is considering darko, just wondering what possible trade is out there.
     
  14. Outlier

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    Dude. We are only 3 spots above Orlando. There is nobody that worthy of taking on Juwan's contract or giving up the former #2 pick with lots of potential.

    I think Orlando would give up Dooling.
     
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    D'ya think Redick can score, maybe just a little bit, do you think he's got it in him, I wonder if he could score in college; oh wait what's that, 30 ppg, OMG he might just be able to play this game a bit, ya think?
     
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    From what I can remember, John Stockton was a pretty good pick setter, and usually the smallest guy on the court. Not saying Reddick can be as 'gamey' as Stockton, but as far as hated white guys go, if Reddick can follow in Stockton's footsteps, count me in.
     
  17. terse

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    Letting Yao have his will be incredibly dangerous next year for any team, because he will drop 50 or 60 on them. Yao has already proven that he can score 27 points in half a game, when Dallas tried to repeat the success they had against us in game 7 of the 2005 playoffs. They did exactly as you suggested, leaving Yao in single coverage against the "second best center in the world". Yao destroyed them. In that game, Dampier and Diop used up 9 fouls betwen them, and scored a grand total of 5 points. We would have won the game easily if we had T-Mac.
     
  18. TMac#1

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    Bryon Russell was guarding Jordan, and if we were against Kobe or Wade or Lebron, TMac would be guarding them, not Redick.
     
  19. TMac#1

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    Um, Mike James anybody? Rotate off him. Bad idea. Rotate off Swift hanging around the paint waiting for a dunk? No, I don't think so. That lives T-Mac and Yao.
     
  20. prv1981

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    Damn, that is just what I was about to say. In the 2005 playoffs Yao was not playing at the level he was playing in 2006.

    I would just love to see any team play Yao single coverage for a whole game!Just to see how many he would drop on them
    For crying out loud he averaged well over 25 points per game on double and triple team coverages nightly at that point in the season.

    As far as Mike James is concerned, he would be a good addition to be a third scorer but if he wants a penny over the MLE I'd pass on him in a heartbeat. The thing about Reddick is he has proven the ability to be a better shooter than Mike James and he will be making a quarter of what Mike James wants, for the next few years.

    I trust the Rox mgmt and whoever they pick, I am just excited at the thought of being able to add a solid scorer/player in our backcourt that is not undersized and can help space out defenders(Reddick) or create for others defend and get to the whole(Brewer). Cant wait til next season!
     

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