Maybe because they do not have point at all. . I believe we will see tag like ROH flying around here after Redick is drafted #8.
Brewer or Roy can be special, but Bargnani has a combination of size and skills that put his potential way up there with Rudy Gay. Certainly Brewer and Roy can turn out to be above-average NBA starters if they work hard enough.
I'm pretty sure most of "us" would forego Brewer for Roy or Bargnani because they are highly ranked. Roy is considered the best SG in the draft and Bargnani is being touted as the next Dirk. What about ya'll Redick supporters? Some of ya'll give the impression that you wouldn't pass Redick for anyone.
I would pass on Redick for any of the big 6 minus Thomas (similarities to Stro scare me). With that said, if any one of those drop, the value of the pick would probably shoot up and I would look to trade down and still snag Redick. Hypothetically, get the 12 and 15 and take Redick and Carney. I just see him as the perfect fit for this team. Like a Rip Hamilton with more range. I like Brewer as well. The likeness to Josh Howard is uncanny. We could really use a guy like that as well. If Brewer is picked, I won't be upset. If we could get Brewer and Redick, I would be ecstatic. Two guys that really intrigue me are Carney and Gay. I think both of these guys could be big stars in the league. Both have all of the athletic tools, they just need a little motivation and polishing.
I think the morning crew just mentioned that JJ measured in at 6'5 1/4", with shoes I believe, and that he was taller than people thought. Anyway, I'm on the JJ bandwagon. You know he can shoot, and should be able to play decent D when JVG gets ahold of him. If we take chances on other guys, unless a top prospect slips down, it may take too long to develop them. TMac and Yao need someone who can contribute NOW. Furthermore, for all you people who constantly harp on the lack of respect and/or coverage for Houston, JJ would bring some attention, one way or another.
According to THE post "Breakfast with JVG" (assume it's legit), coach wants to trade our #8 pick for a young vet. In other words he doesn't even want ONE 1st rounder this year, much less TWO lower picks. If somehow we ended up with two 1st rounders, me thinks JVG is definitely on his way out. But I don't see that happening. So we all should stop this "trade down to get two picks" stuff once and for all.
The one thing every one is missing on Reddick is his endurance (not that he would need for a lot of minutes under JVG) He works and works without the ball. I know I would hate to be the guy that has to cover him. He reminds me most of Hornacek. He just needs to learn to shoot the off balance runner. I'd be fine with Reddick, I have seen a lot more of him than Brewer or Carney. It's a tough choice. But I'm really hoping one of the big 6 falls.
JVG is in the last year of his contract, and as far as I can remember, he never likes having rookies. Also, at number 8 you are not guaranteed of getting a contributing member, at least right away....and as a coach in the last year of his contract, this would not bode well for Mr. Van grumpy. DD
Agreed. The concern about him being able to get off his shot has been overstated. I see him in the perpetual motion mold of Reggie Miller and Rip Hamilton. He's just shorter.
Yes, by 2 inches, but he is already bigger than Hamilton in body size, and no one complains about hamilton getting abused on D. DD
By Draft day Redick will be 6'9". Never saw a guy grow so fast, 2 weeks ago he was reported as being 6'3 1/4" in the Chron and now the guy is 6'5". Along with his better than expected athleticism in the combine, Redick may be wearing Rocket red next season.
Well, a lot of people tend to get taller or shorter when they actually get out a tape measure and MEASURE them. It's called the draft combine and plenty of other players were taller/shorter than expected. I mean, Rudy Gay and Tyrus Thomas are the incredible shrinking men, didn't you know?
Like I said in another thread, Your official NBA height is your barefoot height plus 1.25 inches. Your combine height is not your official height. 1.25 inches is the average of what the shoe soles add for different shoes and different players. Redick could be wering 1.75 inch shoes right now. Officially he IS 6-5 1/4.
I just want to go on record as saying that unless one of the big 6 somehow fall (Bargiana (sp) or Morrison) to us I would be thrilled to have Redick on the roster and have utmost confidence Redick could be a 15-18 ppg guy on this team, and his defense would be at worst sufficient. I also feel he would be our starting sg almost immediately.
You can't ever trust the heights until they are measured. Yao was measured at 7-5 1/2 2.27 m barefoot at the Olympics in 2000 at age 19. However he was measured at 7-5 2.26 m barefoot in China for the Chinese Basketball Association in 1999 at age 18. Also in China they use barefoot height not height with shoes. Yao was listed at 7-5 in China so when he was declared for the draft the league simply listed him at 7-5 (the Chinese height even though he was already 7-5 1/2 barefoot) The league then adds 1.25 inches for a shoe height because that is the standard rule they use. He is listed at 7-5 barefoot and 7-6 1/4 in shoes. He was NEVER even measured. The Rockets are informed by team Yao that he is actually 7-5 1/2 barefoot and still growing. By the time Yao arrives in Houston his rookie year he was 7-5 3/4 2.28 m barefoot and 7-7 1/4 in shoes. Players can choose to be listed either barefoot or in shoes. Yao chose barefoot, so the league listed him 7-5 initially. Then it was changed to 7-6 because he was 3/4" an inch taller than they thought. Yao is officially 7-6 barefoot or 7-7 in shoes per NBA. Barefoot heights are rounded up only if at 3/4". Shoe heights are not supposed to be rounded up, but instead down. Also MANY of the listed combine heights are errors. Wayne Simien is actually 6-7 3/4 barefoot but he was listed at 6-7 1/4 barefoot. Yao's wingspan was actually 7-6 but listed wrongly at 7-4 3/4. In Simien's case a simple typo, in Yao's case a case of not actually using his data from age 18 in 1999. The myth that all heights are in shoes and rounded up is wrong. Draftexpress and NBAdraft.net even use that yet you should notice players sometimes suddenly shrink at the draft just from what those sights have listed after the combine. The league is very simple in how they address height. College takes shoe height and rounds up half inches and above, but NBA does not. That's why the players suddenly "shrink". In a cse like Redick, it can be much like Yao, simply an old measurement which is why they suddenly "grew". But you actually take the barefoot height (mind you the correct one which sometimes is a type on the combine results) and add 1.25 inches. You then round those heights down to the even number and that is the NBA height in shoes. Players can still like Yao, Kobe, Vince, Wade and several others ask to be listed barefoot. People make the height listings much more complicated than they are, and some people actualy subtract 2 inches from every listed height and say that's the real height. Well for Yao and Wade guys like 6-4 and 7-6 barefoot, these people believe they are 6-2 and 7-4. And this is why the college listings are so stupid because they created that myth. If you measure 6-0 even barefoot, in college you can come in with 6-1 1/2 at shoes and you are listed at 6-2. But in NBA you would be listed at either 6-0 or 6-1 depending on your choice.
