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Chron: Rockets tuned in to Redick

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by mikezamir, Jun 4, 2006.

  1. Rockets Dynasty

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    Yeah these are the worst parts of the offseason, just like the moratorium on player signings time.
     
  2. Rockets Dynasty

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    This team no longer has all those 3 point bombers, plus teams just load up more and more on Yao now triple teams even, PLUS we can't rest assured T-Mac is fine.

    You are simply being dishonest with yourself as a Rockets fan if you really believe defensive players and ball handlers are more important than shooters scorers and a 3rd option offensively.

    Besides what did the 05 team do BEFORE it got all those 3 point bombers?

    And Redick is much better than any of those guys, Wesley, Barry, Sura, Padgett
     
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    And you point out that the 05 team did well on O with all those shooters, as your argument againt Redick?
     
  4. Rockets Dynasty

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    This thread should be called

    "The Chronicles of Redick"
     
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    Look at how we got all those shooters. We traded Lue/Gaines/2nd Round pick for Jon Barry and Mike James. We traded Jim Jackson/Nachbar for David Wesley. And we signed Padgett and Sura (decent shooter) to really cheap contracts.

    You don't have to use a lottery pick to get shooting.
     
  7. TMac#1

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    JJ Redick can light it up better than any of those guys from 04-05.
     
  8. Rockets Dynasty

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    Funny but where are all those shooters now?

    Believe it or not you BETTER use that lotto pick on it wen it's the best shooter avaialble anywhere, or do you rather just keep using 1/2 season stop gaps?
     
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    Being dishonest with myself? You are either God or a mind reader! :rolleyes:

    First of all, I've been ranting about a 3rd scoring option since last summer probably more than anyone else. Some people say we could do it by committee but I said, no, we need a designated 3rd gunner with the mindset to take offense at being left open and make defenses pay for it. Unlike you, I'm just not locked into the player being JJ Redick. I'm also not locked into the player being a one-dimensional 3pt shooter. I'm also very skeptical our 3rd gunner is going to be a rookie. I want a more proven NBA commodity in that role. Is that honest enough for you?

    Forget the honesty babble and let's talk common sense. When Yao and Tracy played together our record was very good and our offense did fine. But even then our perimeter defense KILLED us. I'm not going to mis-state the case and say we need a "lockdown defender" who can stop Kobe, Wade & LeBron. We need players who can make these guys work a lot harder and who CAN shut down average offensive SGs and swingmen. I'm sick and tired of seeing worn out retread SGs shoot 10/15 by posting up and shooting bunnies over Luther. It's abusive to my eyes.

    If you watched the 05' team, what made it take off was team chemistry and competent PG play. When Bob Sura hit his stride and Wesley replaced Jim Jackson (which allowed Tracy to move over to SF), the team took off. PG is our 3rd most important position and Sura was a huge upgrade over Charlie Ward and Tyronne Lue. Tracy had his infamous "talk" with JVG. JH played like a dead man until March when he finally seemed to figure out his role. The reason our offense succeeded was not because of 3pt rainshowers (like the Phoenix Suns), it was because the team gelled, we RAN THE BALL and the players got an "attitude" on the offensive end. Instead of fearing teams like the Suns, we licked our chops at playing a weak defensive team. Sure some 3 pointers were mixed in, but it was the aggressive attitude of attacking opponents that took our offense to the next level.

    You need to get over the fact that very few people see Redick as a guaranteed success in the NBA. Just understand most of us don't see him as ever being an NBA starter because athletic SGs will eat him for breakfast, lunch and dinner which will negate his offensive contribution. IMO, at best Redick will be a rotation player of the 6th/7th man sort. At #8, most of us want someone with some upside potential. If you see Redick as an above-average starting SG in the NBA please accept the fact most people don't agree with you.
     
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    Question: You guys that want Brewer over Redick. If Bargnani is sitting there when we draft at #8, do you still draft Brewer?

    Question: You guys that want Brewer over Redick. If Roy is still on the board when we draft at #8, would you still take Brewer?
     
  11. gucci888

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    Yes and Yes. Both Bargnani and Roy are considered Top 5 picks and I've said all along that we should go w/ the BPA.

    Are you trying to make a point or are you just wondering?
     
  12. Rockets Dynasty

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    ?????
     
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    The way he worded the question makes it seem like he is trying to make a point to people who want Brewer.
     
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    Bargnani or Roy > Brewer

    Bargnani has the chance to be a special NBA player.
     
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    Brewer doesn't?
     
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    And the point you're trying to make is that Redick is going to be scrub? :eek:
     
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    Ummmmm, yeah, that's it. :rolleyes:
     
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    Seriously though, what point are you trying to make? All this one eyed-ness from pro-Redick posters is fun.
     
  19. BigM

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    i hope we draft reddick at #8 but i'm laughing at the idea that's he already a better defender then wesley. i think he's going to be a significant defensive downgrade but i'm willing to live with that because his offense could be spectacular. van gundy can and probably will have to hide him on defense.
     
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    I want to know how many Brewer supporters for our eighth pick are willing to forego Brewer if Roy or Bargnani is available. That's the question I asked. It's really pretty simple.
     

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