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Chron: Rockets tuned in to Redick

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by mikezamir, Jun 4, 2006.

  1. gucci888

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    DD, I respect a lot of your posts but you are really reaching here. There are reasons why Graham went undrafted and why guys like Carney and Brewer are locks as lottery picks.

    Let's see:
    Brewer: 18ppg 5rpg 3apg 2.6spg
    Carney: 17ppg 4rpg 1apg 1spg
    Graham: 6.5ppg 3rpg 1apg .5spg

    Do you still think letting him go made no sense?
     
  2. leebigez

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    I also know that JJ struggled against atheletic players in college. He even said that those guy give him trouble. If he thinks those guys are atheletic, just wait till he see it on the next level.
     
  3. Dr of Dunk

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    Umm.. probably because Graham sucked at basketball? Just a hunch.
     
  4. Outlier

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    But CD and Morey picks players that are JVG type players. Don't you think Hayes and Luther are JVG type players? (hard-working effort players)

    So what you said doesn't matter.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    He was hurt his senior year, there is a reason that he is on an NBA roster, my point is that we could have had a FREAKISH athlete with upside for free.....and if it was SO important to have that type of a player, why would you let him go?

    DD
     
  6. Rockets Dynasty

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    Precisely wrong.

    He was double teamed and trapped in college and ALWAYS saw the best defender period.

    On the Rockets he would see about 1/5th the D he saw in college.
     
  7. Rockets Dynasty

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    1. Redick is bigger than Kerr 6-1 to 6-5

    2, Redick is considerably more athletic and quicker than Kerr.

    3. Redick has a much better handle than Kerr.

    4. It may be hard to accept but Redick has a much better shot and range and certainly MUCH quicker release than Kerr did.

    5. Redick can create his own shot, Kerr could not.

    6. Redick is already a much better defender than Kerr was.



    Does everyone here already forget what guys like Hornacek and Hersey Hawkins used to do to the Rockets?

    Redick is more athletic and a better shooter with more range.

    Comparing Redick to Kerr is like comparing Brewer to Ryan Bowen.
     
  8. Rockets Dynasty

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    Yes Bobby Jones is probably a BETTER perimeter defender than Brewer, in fact I would say he IS. At #32 he would be about in the right range to pick.

    He's got size, athleticism, probably a better outside shooter than Brewer. He isn't the all around athlete, player, or talent Ronnie is don't get me wrong, BUT this idea that being able to defend is so rare is just not very well thought out.

    Also people seem to be living in the game as it was in the 90s.

    For some reason 80 percent of this forum has forgotten that you cannot hand check anymore.

    Even Scottie Pippen would not have been so great a perimeter defender today. That's just the reality, so people need to realize this when they are assessing what can reasonably be done defensively on the perimeter.
     
  9. Rockets Dynasty

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    Honestly I think Brewer is worth the 10-14 pick.

    I think Redick is anywhere from 7-10.

    And I do feel Redick is the better player at least right now.

    Who knows, JVG claims management might want a project (that could be Brewer), while he wants the best player now (which is Redick), who knows.

    However since Redick is better NOW, drafting Brewer at 8 is actually the gamble. Also not drafting an elite shooter on ateam with yao and the new rules, for one that can't shoot just doesn't make much sense.

    The whole defense and size argument is frankly flawed because Redick has the size and ability to be a decent above average defender.

    This whole idea that he can't defend anyone is in the same veing as Yao is soft and can't dominate. It's nothing but a stereotype that has no basis in actuality.

    Brewer has a lot going for him, but he can't shoot, and that's based on actuality not stereotype.
     
  10. Rockets Dynasty

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    I don't even know what to say...................

    Look Redick's shooting is talked about because he's one of the best shooters EVER.

    Brewer's defense and hops and all around game are talked about because that's what he is. A guy that does everything decently other than shoot and has good athleticism and size.


    Your argument is just completely lacking any basis.


    Redick's shooting is 90 percent of what you hear about because he's an elite shooter.

    So Ray Allen is one dimensional because 90 percent of you hear about his shooting?
     
  11. Rockets Dynasty

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    T-Mac is going to make Stro an all star.

    In all honesty we should all know as great as T-Mac is, Yao has more say in everything than T-Mac does. And honestly the team is built for yao NOT T-Mac.

    The whole reason T-Mac was acquired was to give Yao that true championship sidekick on the perimeter.

    The ENTIRE team is built with Yao as the focus, the offense is designed for Yao.
     
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    Marion Howard and Jefferson would stand at the 3 point line and brick shots on THIS team.

    Brewer could run up and down and dunk on Suns or Nets, on THis team he can stand and brick wide open 3's.

    Marion Howard and Jefferson are poor shooters.
     
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    But when someone points out Redick's numbers being better than any above it "doesn't count."

    Why don't you flash what Josh Howard di in the SAME conference as Redick the ACC, which happens to be SUPERIOR to the SEC of Brewer and Carney.
     
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    NO those are NOT JVG type players.

    JVG type players are guys like Yao, Sura, Barry, Oakley, Sprewell.
     
  15. Outlier

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    Uhh... I'm sure you know.
     
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    JVG likes guys that respond to his rants and fit his system and fit his designs.

    Luther and Hayes are probably two of the lesser JVG type players.
     
  17. rocketsregle

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    They are BOTH the cornerstone of the Rockets' franchise. Whether you choose to give one more say than the other just because you don't like the message is irrelevant. Tracy's answers are equally important as Yao's.
     
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  18. TMac#1

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    Ummm..we beat them twice last year both in Phoenix when they had Joe Johnson, Q and Amare Stodemire and when they were a 62-20 team. We beat them by 20 pts one of the games.
     
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  20. jopatmc

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    Sure, McGrady is going to say he wants defensive perimeter help. This team needs defensive perimeter help. And McGrady is sure not giong to say we need another scorer, is he? After all he is the big banana of offense. Redick upgrades our defense and he upgrades our offense and there is stil plenty of opportunities to get a defender. McGrady's buddy is out there. We could use the TE to acquire Stevenson. Bogans, Jumaine Jones, Hassan Adams, Bobby Jones....there's plenty of defenders to be had.

    The #1 need on this team is shooting and a 3rd scorer. J.J. is the best shooter that is available on this planet.
     

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