Will Perdue - Absolutely no Vinny Del Negro - No Out of the rest, Richmond was a cut above, followed by Smits, Seikaly, Majerle, Mason, Strickland, Maxwell, and Hawkins. Everybody else below that is a pick'em as far as the effectiveness of their careers. Kerr could have went to some trash team and scored 20 ppg but he played on good teams. The other fellas there are just role players on good teams that put up bigger stats on junk teams.
Kerr wasn't a role player? Don't get me wrong he played a vital role, but it doesn't matter how you cut it, he still was a little one dimensional. The only thing that got him in the game was his shot (and veteran presence later on in his career), everything else was just good enough to not be a liability. No one ever put Kerr in the game to contain the opposing point guard, run a fast break, or make outstanding passes (let alone as a go to scorer). I don't think kerr could have averaged 20ppg on a bad team. I don't think this says anything about redick though. Redick has a better midrange game and is a sg, so he has different responsabilities. Sorry for all the posts, I'm avoiding studying for a final.
Absolutely, he was a role player. My point was that out of that draft, there weren't too many players that were better than him. It would have not been a big stretch to draft him top 10. And if he had gone to one of those lottery teams, his stats would have been much higher.
Here are a couple different ways to measure how good a player's career turned out. First, total career win shares. Win Shares is based on a player's offensive efficiency, defensive efficiency, and an estimate of his total possession involvement. Defensive efficiency is based on individual stats (steals, blocks, defensive rebounds, fouls) as well as his team's overall defensive efficiency. I think it's a good measure of how successful the player was, but perhaps it gives too much credit to players that were fortunate enough to be on good defensive teams: Code: [COLOR=Navy] player win shares[/COLOR] 1 Anthony Mason 264 2 Hersey Hawkins 254 3 Rod Strickland 238 4 Dan Majerle 234 5 Mitch Richmond 219 6 Grant Long 166 7 Rik Smits 162 8 Danny Manning 161 [B]9 Steve Kerr 130[/B] 10 Vinne Del Negro 115 11 Rony Seikaly 113 12 Vernon Maxwell 90 13 Willie Anderson 85 14 Will Perdue 83 15 Rex Chapman 73 An alternative method would be to look at the product of PER and minutes played. Since PER is a per-possession productivity metric, this might end up slightly favoring players who played on slower paced teams. Over the course of their respective careers, though, the average pace tends to even out. PER only uses individual stats for crediting a player's defensive contributions. So for example, while the fact Mitch Richmond and Rex Chapman was usually on very poor defensive teams hurt their Win Shares rating, it has no effect on this rating. Also, I divided the product by 15000, to keep the numbers small. Of course, this wouldn't effect the ranking. Code: [COLOR=Navy] player PER*min/15000[/COLOR] 1 Rod Strickland 40.4 2 Mitch Richmond 40.3 3 Hersey Hawkins 34.8 4 Anthony Mason 29.8 5 Dan Majerle 27.8 6 Rik Smits 27.6 7 Danny Manning 27.3 8 Grant Long 25.3 9 Rony Seikaly 22.4 10 Vernon Maxwell 20.6 11 Rex Chapman 18.1 12 Vinne Del Negro 17.3 13 Willie Anderson 14.7 [B]14 Steve Kerr 14.2[/B] 15 Will Perdue 11.2
His agent says he backed out of a workout for Boston and Orlando because he had a stiff back.....that is all that has been confirmed. DD
Well, why was Kerr not being guarded during his Chicago years? The answer is that the other teams were frantically trying to guard the Bulls' two superstars. Redick would find himself in the same situation if he were to join our team. He will enjoy his time here, and other teams will hate him.
Thanks, Storm Surge and DD. It seems the back isn't anything to worry about, unless the agent is fibbing.
Didn't Kerr ride the Jordan and Duncan gravy trains? Did that have anything to do with his pro effectiveness? Would he have been that effective if he wasn't standing wide open for much of his career? I would be curious to Steve's assist to turnover Ratio. Wait, MJ brought the ball up. All he was supposed to do was catch and shoot or give the ball to MJ or Duncan if he was covered. Top pro!!
Yeah, but when Kerr announces it's annoying. Kenny is entertaining and is a homer for no one. Kerr's Homer tendencies for the Spurs are redickulus.
When it comes to homerology? It's different when it's a local announcer. Steve Kerr uses a national station to spread his views. It sickens me. Elliott is no different than Calvin was.
this is all in hindsight. and i think there are more than 9 from that draft that had more productive careers than Kerr. the first 8 from that draft while not great were all pretty good and better than Kerr with the exception of Tim Perry.
