I think that post actually made a valid point. The original post said that the #8 pick are RARELY franchise players and almost NEVER contribute right away. Basically saying we should pick the player who is ready to contribute right away. But it's that type of reasoning for why teams picked Adonal Foyle over TMac, Tractor Traylor over Dirk, Dampier/Samaki Walker/Todd Fuller over Kobe, and it's why the Clippers picked Wilcox over Amare. All those players were deemed as players that could contribute right away. It just shows that the player that MIGHT be able to contribute faster may not necessarily be the better pick.
I am a strong beleiver in taking the best possible player available. If it doesn't work out, at least you have a tradable asset. That being said, at #8 Redick might in fact be the best player available. We'll see. I won't be upset with getting Redick unless somebody obviously more talented slips down on draft day. (but if they do you have to wonder why) If all the other obvious players are gone and Sheldon Williams and JJ are still on the board, who do you take? I take JJ. I think he is the better player but some folks might take Williams citing that big men are hard to find. Selecting him on that criteria would be a mistake, IMO. Most here would take him simply so we can dump Juwan and/or Stro but that also would be a mistake. If we do that, we still need to fill the SG position. Why pick a player on position particularly if you already have 3 servicable (barely) PF's?
All that post proved was that Dirk, Amare, Kobe, Pierce and so forth were deemed by the "experts" and the common sentiment to not be worth of the #8 pick, just as people here are arguing with Redick. All that point did was further the argument that many pro-Redick people are bringing up. That these opinions are USUALLY wrong, NOT right. Them being right is USUALLY the exception, yet so many here seem to believe whatever some "expert" labeled on Redick is fact. Several people have pointed out that yao should have never eben stepped on NBA court according to 90 percent of the "experts." These types of arguments just seem to be going over many people's heads. As for the people that still insist Redick is terribly slow and has no handle, AGAIn several videos for informative purposes have been posted in this thread, maybe you should check them out, since you obviously haven't veiwed much of Redick.
Ive never really gotten a chance to go through all of these posts, so can someone wrap this up and explain how this went to 500+ posts...
There's something about Redick. Most controversial/hated college player in years perhapsd ever. Most controversial/hated player in the draft.
Named as the McDonald's All-American contest MVP after scoring 26 points on 10-of-15 shooting (5-of-6 from three-point range). http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=11144 So against all the "elite athletes", all the "long, athletic defenders", all the "bigger, stronger, quicker, more veratile players" Redick was the game's MVP.
Not unless Clutch promises to put it on the front page. The time that it would take to write that article deserves a feature.
Wouldn't he be smarter too? I mean Duke is not an easy school like Memphis. From ESPN link above. Scouting Report: A streaky shooter, but still one of the purest in the country ... Has terrific elevation, discipline and poise in his form ... Releases the ball at the top of his elevation ..... Possesses range that borders on unreal, and he occasionally gets caught up in that ability ... Will take 3-pointers from well beyond the stripe ... Uses his outside shooting ability to create mid-range shots for himself, throwing pump fakes to open up pull-up jumpers ... Has solid finishing ability when he gets deep in the lane.
Wrapping up this thread is an honor that should go to Clutch. He should have the last word on Redick and then close this thread.
I am still working on getting Clutch on board, I need more time...Dang it Jim, I need more Dilithium crystals !!!
And why would you leave this out??? Shame Shame. but is not an outstanding athlete ... Defense needs improvement.
Are you suggesting that there was "defense" played in that game? Or even that it simulates a real game environment? I don't even know what you are trying to imply really.
My view on Redick comes from watching a ton of Duke games, not highlight videos posted on youtube by Duke fans. I could probably put together a highlight video of Wesley that makes him look like AI. I've seen a lot of Redick and I understand why draft analysts have ball handling, defense, and athleticism as his biggest weaknesses. There are always exceptions and Redick maybe one of them, but you have to stop and wonder why every profile of Redick talks about his lack of athleticism, ball handling skills, and defense. Why is that most mocks have him going outside the Top 10 besides the fact that he was the National College player of the year and is the leading scorer in ACC hisotry. Why is that 80% of the members on this board have reservations about Redick and only a few are arguing that he is a complete player, athletic, etc...? When did 90% of the experts say Yao should have never stepped on a NBA court?
80%? 90%? You are pulling numbers out of your rectum ! Yes, there are risks, whatever, we just disagree. Sig bet on Redick averaging 8ppg this year? DD
I didn't make up the 90% number, read the original post DD. As for 80%, I'm judging by how many posters wrote they're not sure or simply don't want Redick at #8, would you disagree w/ this? I won't bet because I think he will average 8ppg, but that's not saying a whole lot. Head, Gomes, and Stoudamire averaged over 8ppg despite going #24, #31, and #50. I would hope the #8 pick in a draft would score 8ppg. But like I said, scoring isn't my main concern w/ Redick. We all know he can shoot the ball, will he be able to shoot that well in the NBA, not sure. But at #8, I'm going to look at all the aspects a player can/can't bring, not just whether someone can shoot the ball or not.
He exaggerated for emphasis but most experts said the Rockets were crazy for taking Yao #1. To this day, many of those experts still consider him a bust. I'm not so interested in what the experts say. The guy averaged over 7 FTA a game which tells him he is a damn smart player considering he's not trying to dunk over people. How does a jump shooter consistently get to the line? He clearly knows how to impart himself on the game.
Oh no you didn't. 90 million posts in 4 different threads for a guy that you think is going to score 8ppg. He might give up 20 points with his defense. I like you am watching the Mavs/Heat game and I can plug in Brewer or Carney playing in this extraordinary defensive display but Redick I see sitting on the bench watching because of his size and athleticism. I really don't see the Rox taking Redick that high when there is an athlete like Carney who has so much upside who might be available.
This to me is one of the most telling stats, the guy obviously does not just stand out there and shoot jumpers, he moves around and forces the action in a positive manner. Redick would fit perfectly and 90% of the people agree that the Rockets are great around here, the other 10% think they are super. DD
