See I think Redick is more than just shooting, he is a good passer, he moves very well without the ball, and he has a high basketball IQ....the Reggie Miller comparison is really good, as I think that is the kind of player he will become. DD
Redick is not a good passer, or at least he hasn't shown that he is. As far as the Reggie Miller comparison, I think it's really premature to compare a player who hasn't stepped on a NBA court to the NBA's best shooter ever, but I understand your point. The big difference is that Reggie Miller is 6'7", which allowed him to get a lot of shots over most SGs. Redick is 6'3" and will be guarded by taller SGs 98% of the time.
Reggie rarely shot when guarded, mostly he moved around picks and screens and shot off of inside out offense. And he did not jump all that well, but was effective. True, it is not fair to compare Redick to Reggie, but their games are very similar in style, and it would be great if Redick has half the career that RM had. DD
Didn't somebody earlier say that Redick is getting like 7+ free throw attempts per game? That doesn't sound like some stiff jump shooter. He is obviously getting in there, attacking the rim and making things happen. Jump shooters don't get to the free throw line at that rate. I'm not so bothered by this stereotype that Redick is only a jump shooter. THEY said Yao was just a jump shooter too.
If Redick's shots don't fall he will just have to use Bigger TEXT and contribute by using BOLD-face, Capitalize Letters, Italics and Underlines to draw attention to himself when he doesn't have a point to add. Sorry ubigred, I couldn't resist. If a guy has a bad game, he has a bad game. No matter who we draft, they will have several bad games, but the true picture is what that player does overall. gucci888, I've been watching all the highlights of these guys and I'm not buying this Brewer hype. He didn't do anything great, he just contributes in a lot of areas. That's good, but does that have the same impact as the ball going thru the hoop? He seems smart and unselfish, which builds a lot of chemistry, but I don't think he looked like a guy that would warrant putting on the floor as an NBA starter on day one. I think Brewer will take a while before he's ready to start, especially on a JVG team. A guy that keeps knocking them down can't be held out of the lineup unless his defense becomes 'bull-fighter' style. Basically, a shooter has a better chance of contributing immediately and more often next year . Brewer seems like an up tempo guy. The Rockets aren't an up tempo team. It's not what we do well. Up tempo isn't what we're going to go to in the playoffs straight out of a timeout. Why draft a player that belongs on that type of team? Why draft a hard nosed running back if we're going to be passing 90% of the time? Plus, if Redick was just a pure shooter, then why did teams let him score so much? Did they fail to guard him? No. They tried and couldn't stop him. If NBA teams leave him open, he'll shoot the ball at 50% or better and he'll score often like he did in college. If they guard him tightly, that defender won't be able to double or help out. They've got to chase him or else. That's a weapon. A weapon that can be worked off of. Imagine: pump fake, dribble drive, kick to whoever's man moves over to help out. That's what a good shooter does. He uses his shot to get himself to the basket. When they are stopped by another defender, someone near the basket is open. That's an easy pass. You don't have to be Nash to make that pass. Most of those highlights with Brewer had other players doing all the work. I still watched Brewer during those(#10, headband). He doesn't strike me as a guy that can play the PG. He can play the SG, maybe the SF, he'll never play the PF. He's too skinny. Kobe Bryant could push this kid around. I honestly think that Redick's PG abilities are better than Brewer's right now too. Dribbling didn't look like a strong suit of Brewer's. Plus (this is important to remember), Brewer nailed his workout in Houston. That means that that is his best. Best ever. We're never going to see that quality again on a regular basis. Certainly not on an average day. Take a few points off because of this. Brewer is thin and probably can't box out NBA players out all that well for rebounds. He isn't lightning quick. He doesn't really seem to do anything that I would call a weapon. Redick has a known weapon. If we want teams to pay for doubling, we have to hit shots. JVG's defense will take care of the rest. We should go with a sure thing. I'm sure that Redick will hit more 3's than Brewer during the first year if healthy. Look at it this way: If you were in a fight, you could pick one guy and you had to win this fight, who would it be? Would you pick the guy with a gun and a willingness to use it or the big tall guy that looked like he could fight? That's what we are talking about here. Who has the biggest arsenal? Think about it that way. Does Brewer have any weapons that strike any amount of fear in anyone? Can his group of weapons stop anyone in their tracks? A late 3pointer is a dagger. A weapon used at the right time has far more power than a bunch of qualities. Brewer can wear an opponent down with all his talents, Redick's shot can send them home.
Make no doubt about it, Redick is a jump shooter. 47% of his shots were from the 3 point line. He was a volume shooter in college, so I wouldn't preclude the possibility that these FTs were because a defender caught him on the arm while taking his jumper. Anyway, he will will be attacking the basket with a lot less frequency in the NBA because he is too slow and NBA defenders are too big and fast.
Yeah, that worked last year. We were the third best defensive team in the league. How did you like all that offense we created? Defense only creates offense if you've got guys that can chuck it through the hole. When you don't, all defense creates is more defense.
it doesn't have to be morrison as long as any two out of foye, both williams's, o'bryant, and even redick get picked before the rockets get their opportunity to do so.
Nash is the slowest guy in the NBA and he routinly gets layups and can hit open shots off on bigger/faster guys. Why? Because he plays smart. JJ's lack of speed doesn't bother me. I'm not writing him off simply for the reasons you describe. There are tons of "slow" dudes that do well.
Exactly, we were 3rd best d in the assoc. with the 6'1 statue David Wesley guarding SGs. This is going to be a good defensive team as long as Jeff Van Gundy is the coach. Here's the deal. I know damn well that a 22 yr old 6'4 JJ Redick will be a better defender than 6'1 12 yr vet David Wesley at SG, certainly no worse. We are already 3rd best in pts allowed, and Redick would be an improvement!!! If we add Mike James, we are improving more. Defense is about coaching philosophy and is team oriented. Look at Dallas, the last 7 yrs they have been among the worst defensive teams in the league. Dirk has been known as a terrible defender, Terry is bad, Stackhouse, Van Horn, etc... all of these guys supposedly can't play defense but all of the sudden Avery Johnson comes in preaches defense and they are holding Miami to 80 pts in the Finals, playing great defense. Look at the Rockets under the last few years under Rudy T. We stunk defensively. His last year we had the team with Francis, Mobley, Yao Cato etcc.. The next year Van Gundy takes over with the same roster and we suddenly become one of the top 3 or 4 defensive teams in the NBA, with the same guys. Tracy never played defense in Orlando, he comes to Houston with JVG and shuts down Dirk Nowitzki for 7 games.
Barring draft night stock falls of Roy, Gay etc..., Redick would be an ideal fit for the Rockets on the condition that this team is going to take shooting first in the offseaon. Our defense is enough to get by, our offense is what suckes donkey balls. We need offensive talent more than defensive talent. The Rockets need to have their identity established, they have the formula but not the pieces. They need players with attibutes that compliment their stars. Among those attributes the most important one is shooting. It's a waste of T-Mac and Yao's talent and efforts due to a lack of shooting talent. The katana for the Rockets is the hot hands that can shoot the ball. T-Mac and Yao are the swordsmen, they will swing the sword and find the enemy walks away unscathed, because the blade is blunt. I think since our defense is enough to get by, we should concentrate on building our edge on offense. Sharpen our blunt blade until it cuts through steel like tofu. Our bread and butter play is the creation of T-Mac and Yao plus blistering outside shooting. Add Mike James and JJ Redick plus Novak will get the job done. Maybe JJ will have one night off, but James and Novak can step up and still maintain an overall high outside shooting percentage. The same goes for James and Novak.That's the beauty of having depth in shooting talent. Three guns is a lot better than having just one gun. That's also why guys like Brewer is not the best fit for the Rockets, they have a higher tendancy to go cold, and when they are hot, they are not that outstanding like James, Novak or JJ Redick. Get our katana first than go after shields. I've seen enough using the shield as weapon last year. It's ugly and ineffective.
Since when is JJ Redick slow? I know he's not the fastest guy in the draft, but he's not slower than Jaric. He's not really that slow at all. He's quick, so that's not an issue. I don't get it. What does speed do in the NBA? Sura is slow too and we all love his game. The 90 foot dash doesn't require much speed. Quick first steps matter and he has that.
I just remembered something about last year's draft. I remember now JVg saying that it was Dennis Lindsey that was pushing for Luther Head and that he also pushed for Chuck Hayes to be signed in the summer and that he would have picked him up as a 2nd round pick. What was interesting was that JVG made some snide comments like well something to the effect of roughly "Carroll Dawson worked Luther out and was impressed by his athleticism and shooting ability so he thought Dennis knew what he was talking about, well at least Luther does have some athletic ability but he's no point guard and he's way too small at SG." He then said something like, well "Chuck Hayes was someone Dennis really wanted but when I heard he was 6-6 I immediately wrote him off and had no interest in him, well that was a mistake." Then he said something like "Carroll talked with Dennis about Chuck and Dennis told him Chuck was a winner and a competitor." Then JVg said something like, well "Dennis inisted these two were experienced and well coached and were winners and had good work ethics. He also insisted Luther was a cluth player and Chuck Hayes was just a flat out winner. In retrospect he was right and we got good value at 24 with Luther and not signing Hayes from the beginning was a mistake." I remember hearing something like that on ESPN Radio awhile back. The basic impression I got out of it was that Dennis Lindsey is the guy running the show when it comes to draft picks and that the typics "JVG type player" is not going to be drafted unless Lindsey wants him. I also sort of picked up from JVG's tone that it's actually Lindsey that Carroll Dawson really listens to on who to draft, not JVG and that it's CD not JVG who evaluates the actual workouts, which are actually run by Lindsey. I remember too now that JVG mentioned something about Lindsey looks for proven, experienced college players, with a rep of hard work, determination, effort to get better, coming from major programs, and having been big time winners playing with big time coaches. He then looks for a typical skill like shooting, rebounding or athleticism and rates players on all areas. He runs extremely intense and hard workouts according to what JVG said, and it is finally Carroll Dawson who THEN makes a final decision based off of this. It seemed that JVG was impliying as well that the strategy of Lindsey and Dawson (through player's Lindsey targets) is to pick the player that fits one specific need the most and is the best available when you pick, whie also meeting above criteria. But also that area of most need is the main focus. JVG really in all honestly seemed not pleased at all with Head and hayes being players the Rockets even targeted but he admitted he was "wrong" about that. Maybe after all the draft disasters with Dawson and Rudy, Alexander got wise and has Lindsey, not Dawson, or any coach for that matter targeting and scouting players. You would assume that Morey would have nowhere near the input as Lindsey based on b-ball knowledge if that's really how they are scouting picks. So remembering JCG's disdain for that, it would seem to say that the typic "JVG pick" isn't what they would take. More like Shelden Williams or JJ Redick, and specifically Redick because SG is the greater need. Now that I remember this I am actually glad Lindsey is getting so much input in the draft picks now.
But Reggie was 6-6 barefoot and Redick is 6-4 in shoes. Yes Reeick is 6-3 and change barefoot (some workouts have him 6-3 1/4, some 6-3 1/2 but your height can vary slightly during the day)......... let's just say he's a solid 6-3 barefoot, well his official NBA listing will be 6-4 then, and in Reggie's day they WERE at that point listing heights in shoes. You have to go back to 70s for when they listed heights without shoes on. So it's a 3 inch difference, not 4. And Redick would be listed at 6-4, so he would not be shorter than 98 percent of the SG's in the league.
It makes me wonder if the Redick lovers have ever seen him play. This is from Charlie Rosen's column about Redick. His speed is not opinion, its fact and comparing him to a crafty ball handler like Nash is nonsensical as well. Can't do: Put the ball on the floor against quick defenders — that's because his dribble is much too high. Show any trickery or deception near the basket (he had three layups blocked). Execute convincing ball-fakes. Play in any other gear but slow-motion. Create his own shot. Play defense with intensity. Avoid turning his head on defense. Must do: Get quicker, faster, stronger — and, above all, get his dribble down to at least mid-thigh level. Quicken his crossover. Develop stylish moves in the paint. Somehow get some liveliness in his body. Learn to get over, around or under screens. Defend.
You mean he would be shorter than 98% of the SG's in the league. The average height for an NBA SG is about 6'6".
You aren't really trying to make that a real argument are you? We know he is not shorter than 98 percent of the SG's in the league. Staring SG's (they are bigger than the backups obviously) 1. Ben Gordon 6-3 in shoes 2. Dwayne Wade 6-4 in shoes 3. David Wesley 6-1 in shoes (well he was a starter for years in Houston and with the Hornets) 4. Rashad McCants 6-4 in shoes 5. Juan Dixon 6-3 in shoes 6. Cuttino Mobley 6-4 in shoes You could also debate Gilbert Arenas at 6-4 in shoes and Allen Iverson at 6-0 in shoes as to whether they are PGs or SGs. Ok now of course you said ALL SG's on the league......well many backups are that size or smaller: 1. Tony Allen 6-4 in shoes 2. Steve Francis 6-3 in shoes (I know he's always been a PG but the Knicks played him at backup SG and apparently if they can't trade him that's what he's going to be) 3. Willie Green 6-4 in shoes 4. Louis Williams 6-2 in shoes (SG in a PG's body used as a SG) 5. Ronald Murray 6-4 in shoes 6. Sarunas 6-4 in shoes (yeah he was actually used at backup Sg the Reggie role not really PG) 7. Fred Jones 6-4 in shoes 8. Maurice Williams 6-1 in shoes (another Sg in a PG's body, used as a Sg this year) 9. Keyon Dolling 6-3 in shoes (another SG in a PG's body used as a SG) 10. Antonio Daniels 6-4 in shoes 11. Bobby Jackson 6-1 in shoes (remember until Damon got hurt and also with the Kings he really was more a SG, may be called the bakcup PG, but he actually plays off guard much like Arenas and Iverson) 12. Macijauskus 6-4 in shoes 13. Bracey Wright 6-3 in shoes 14. Voshon lenard 6-4 in shoes 15. Barbosa 6-3 in shoes 16. Hinrich 6-3 in shoes (plays starting SG many times when Gordon is used as a 6th man and Duhon starts at PG) Now explain to me how that makes Redick shorter than 98 percent of the SGs in the league. Some people are making it sound like 6-4 in shoes would be setting an NBA record for shortest SG EVER. Ok yes 6-4 is undersized and below average for a starting Sg but it's HARDLY a freaking midget out there or something like some members here seem to be convinced of.
