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Chron: Rockets tuned in to Redick

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by mikezamir, Jun 4, 2006.

  1. GTO

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    Is Redick going to play PG? Do you think Redick can go off 30 points against Wade and at the same time holds Wade under 30?
     
  2. H-Dub

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    You got it man please dont compare Jt a pg to redick a extremely less athletic less defensive less hardnosed sg!
     
  3. jopatmc

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    LOL.

    Yeah, Terry that great defensive stopper HELD Wade under 30. :rolleyes:
     
  4. H-Dub

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    Thank you for coming around but still how can you say redick is almost as good of athlete even if jj wasnt a bad athlete(which he boderline is) carney is the second most althetic player in the draft so i cant give you that one!
     
  5. H-Dub

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    I didnt say hes a defensive stopper but he sure is 10 times better than jj could ever do against wade!
     
  6. Yetti

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    Reddick is a spot up shooter not a Point Guard. a Point Guard is one who controls the game and sets up plays as a Playmaker.
     
  7. jopatmc

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    26 x 10 = 260. Yeah, J.J. would let Wade go off for 260.
     
  8. GTO

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    That is my point actually. Redick can't play PG and he is not going to do well against Wade. :p
     
  9. krosfyah

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    Redick can play SG on the offensive end and can play the PG on defense. These type of adjustments are common place.
     
  10. HillBoy

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    Cute post but in reality having Redick on the floor (assuming JVG actually lets him play) won't radically change how other teams defense the Rockets. Even with Redick, the Rockets would still be on the wrong end of the matchup battle. TMac and Yao would still see the same defenses because other teams would take the chance and dare Redick to beat them while they put a bigger, faster player on him and force him to make his own shot which is not something he does well enough to be a worry to opposing teams.
     
  11. saleem

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    Excellent post Hillboy. GATER made the same point earlier.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Well, I think it is a lousy post by Hillboy, did you watch any of those highlights?

    He comes around screens, He gets by his man by taking one or two dribbles and stopping on a dime and shoots.

    The guy can GET HIS OWN shot....

    And, the point about faster players making a difference is moot you have Redick making the entry pass into Yao from the corner, then cutting through Yao and another screen at the top of the circle by our PF and he is wide open, or the defense is scrambling.

    For those saying Redick is a spot up shooter, or Redick can or can't do this.....all I can say is....Redick is a player...A PLAYER, and we need those badly.

    DD
     
  13. anitasri

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    OK so you are suggesting Yao and Others set screens so that Redick can score and prove your point?

    First of all
    1. That is a pathetic use for a dominant man like Yao. In my opinion Yao should not be setting screens for anyone except T mac- and for critical plays where we need to score.

    2. If he needs screens- then how come that will qualify as "creating his own shot"?

    3. Do you consider what will happen on the Defensive end with Redick in the Western Conference? His contribution will be negative- it is differentials that count- not how many points someone puts up ( of course you add in stuff for intangibles )
     
  14. vwz

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    1. If player can utilize a Yao screen to score, Yao should set a screen for that player on EVERY play... There's no rule that Yao should only set screens for McGrady... How many times last year did McGrady come off a Yao screen and shoot an errant shot?? The point of setting screens it to get open looks for your players. If Redick is on this team, he will be THE best player on the team in terms of converting open outside shots. Thus, rest assured that Yao will be setting screens of all sorts for J.J.

    2. "Creating your own shot" is a vastly overrated attribute, I will guarantee that I will not want any player we draft at no. 8 to be "creating their own shot" on a consistent basis - there is one player on the Rockets I'd want doing that when he gets hot, McGrady. There are only about 10 players in the NBA right now who I would want to "create their own shot" on a consistent basis. The best-run offenses are team offenses that utilize screens, defensive double-teams, player movement and ball movement to score points. Using screens isn't antithetical to good basketball, it IS good basketball...

    3. I think if his contribution on the basketball court was a net negative, he would not have played the most minutes on a Duke team playing the toughest schedule in college basketball last year. Trust me, you don't get minutes playing for Mike Krzyzewski if you're not playing defense.
     
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    Has Houston drafted a player they "tuned into" during pre-draft stuff? I think it will be...Simmons.
     
  16. Outlier

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    Who? And why?
     
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    You must not have watched the Duke vs Memphis game to say that Carney is not a shut down defender, which is exactly what he did to Redick. Redick is a great spot-up shooter that could play a valuable role coming off the bench for the Rockets, but at number 8 you have to have higher aspirations. Carney might flame out, but he has the potential to be a solid nba starter and at the very least will give the Rockets some size and athleticism at the SG. Look at all the other SG's in the NBA. There is a reason they more often resemble Carney's body-type than they do Redick's.
     
  18. Outlier

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    This got me thinking...

    What IF, we don't draft Shelden, Redick, Carney, Brewer, Marcus, etc.

    Watch us draft someone we've never talked about on this forum.
     
  19. clutch0734

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    I'd go for reddick if Carney is gone by then and any of the top 6.....
     
  20. Rockets Dynasty

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    So far Houston, Seattle, Orlando, Boston, Minnesotta, and Utah have all worked out Redick and they all reported,

    "He was surprisingly athletic, quick, could create his own shots, has a good handle, can score easily against long athletic defenders, plays great one on one basketball, and is a tenacious defender."


    That's basically a paraphrasing of all the reports pretty much summed up.

    At the Seattle workout he worked against Foye and Seattle reported he was much better. At the Orlando workout he worked against Foye and Carney and Orlando said Redick was by far the most impressive.

    For Utah he worked out against Gansey, and some other players I forget now maybe Foye and some others and apparently owned the workout. Gansey was noted later to say that he was surprised at the rep of Redick as he was easily a multi-demionsal player and did many things quite well.

    Why are all the ant-Redick posters still claiming why he should not be drafted because of being "one-demionsal, too slow, too unathletic, can't defend." etc.

    Apparently they know more about the game than the management of all the above teams.
     

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