i don't think v-span is coming this year and really i don't want to use half the mle on an unknown. i love sura and he'd instantly be my third favorite player again should he return, but i'm not doing any moves based on him maybe coming back.
The ONLY thing Carney does better than J.J. is rebound. J.J. is a better shooter from 2, a better shooter from 3, a better FT shooter, a better ball handler, a better passer, and a better creator of his own shot, along with being a better worker on the basketball court. Carney is not even a shut down defender. All he is is a player with the PHYSICAL CAPABILITY to be a shut down defender. But he is not a shut down defender. If Carney were a shut down defender he would be out of our reach with the top 6 or 7 players in the draft. He DID NOT do it in college. You should be able to read between the lines. McGrady is doing his kid brother's friend a favor. McGrady says he can't get off his own shot. A 6'7" supposed athletic superfreak that can't get off his own shot. What does that tell us? Reports are his baskeball IQ is weak. Does that fit us? He was benched repeatedly by his college coach because of lack of effort, intensity, and not having his head in the game. It all adds up to TOO MUCH RISK. You want length and athleticism in the perimeter? Trade down a few slots and take Brewer. Take Brewer at 8 if you have to. You want skills on the offensive end, the most offensively skilled perimeter player in this draft? You gotta take J.J. Low risk, good return. Carney is high risk. We want low risk with good return. We don't need unlimited upside with unlimited risk unless we are going to get that unlimited upsided and unlimited risk for something on our roster that is zero upside and already going down hill. Figure out a trade that sends out Juwan and brings in Carney and I'll be all for it. Until then, just pass on Carney. Too much risk. Too much risk. Too much risk. If we cannot get Brandon Roy, then we need to get ourselves in a position to get 2 of 3 of Brewer, Shelden, and J.J. If we get one of them, we've hit a double. If we get 2 of them, we've hit a homer. If we somehow got all 3 (pretty much impossible), we would have hit a grand slam. We draft Carney and we are batting with 2 strikes against us (results unknown, odds poor).
I will admit that carney is almost as good a shooter as jj when you admit jj is almost as good an athlete as carney. As was pointed out, JJ was held to 3 points in the second half because he deferred to shelden who was killing memphis inside. JJ scored 15 on 9 shots. that is the type of attitude we need. If yao is killing a team then there is no need for jj to try to take a bunch of 3's, but his presence on the court helps keep teams more honest. As for carney being as good as redick shooting wise that is absurd. redick hit his shots when entire teams were focused on not letting him shoot. as for lock down defense, what game did you see that happen. If carney was such an amazing player why did coack calipari keep benching him. If a player wont give max effort in college why is he gonna do it with millions in the bank in the nba. Carney may be great in 3-5 years, right when yao and tmac are slowing down if not well past their prime. we need someone to come in and help out now and jj can do that on offense. as for defense, i think a 22 year old jj wont be that much worse then a 34 or 35 year old wesley was.
Remind me not to get a letter of recommendation from you Ask yourself this. Is JJ the type of player that JVG will give significant minutes to? You get extra points for not mentioning that JVG needs to be fired in your repsonse.
I've also entertained the idea of having Redick and Brewer as well, but at on the floor together. I'd take Brewer playing point forward, and also defending the BPP (Best perimeter player). And Redick at the 1, but in a derek fisher/rip hamilton role, constantly moving, looking to catch and shoot. The beauty is, the other team will use their taller guard to defend Brewer, leaving Redick at 6'4 and with a height advantage over his man. I don't think 12 and 15 will snag them though, i see Brewer going before 12 and JJ before 15.
Let me make a note: I will support whoever we draft, even if it's Carney. When he plays for us, I will still think lowly of him until he proves me otherwise.
JVG will not be fired but he will be released so no need to bring JVG into the picture. The fact that he has no desire are perhaps even ability to develop any young players is another reason he won't be back. So exclude him from any equation.
Has anyone seen the link to clutchfans from Rockets.com We finally got a little respect from the "official" site. I put this here b/c it is the Reddick Profile that Rockets.com is linking too.
best post on this thread...here is a guy who actually has the ability to analize, and he did a fine job on this analysis of the rocket`s, reddick, and these other players abilities. Too bad he could never work in the rocket`s organization, he`s just too damn smart, and the idiots who have the power in the org, would be too stupid to recognize talent even in hiring employees. I have seen too many of these players who are considered good shooters (offensive shooting guards) who can`t shoot in the big show, i.e., j.r. smith! You see him in the mcdonalds game, couldn`t miss, same thing for gerald green....confidence, or lack hereof, brings out the flaws in your shooting at the nba level. carney, brewer, etc...are not nearly the shooter that reddick is, and it will show at this level, same old playoff of the perimeter players b/c they just don`t have theconfidence to consitently hit 4 jumpers in a row, which is what it takes to make the defense adjust (i.e. steve kerr, dallas vs san antonio) playoff strategy!
Totally agree. That's why bottom line, if we can only have one guy, and Roy is gone, I think it has to be Brewer. Because you can do the same thing if you link Brewer to another sharp shooting smaller guard, say Luther Head, or Mike James. Brewer would be the guy that could come in here and develop into what we really with the diversified skill set that we need. I really like the idea of having him be the big PG that brings the ball up and distributes to McGrady and our other shooter. That allows us to run a smaller player at that position that is a shooter, which there seem to be more and more of those guys coming into the league and it allows Brewer to facilitate. You bring in a Mike James (crossing my fingers and praying) and line him up with Brewer. If Brewer really is the player we think he is, which is to say, defensive stopper (Pippen style) and offensive initiator (Pippen like) then you could run James at the other guard spot. You get shooting and slashing with James and not only that but on the defensive end, you've got a super quick James that can defend the point and Brewer locking down the better offensive option of the SG or SF while McGrady gets the easiest matchup. I am becoming more and more convinced every day that if Brewer is really the defensive stopper we think he is and if he can handle like we think he can, he would be the best fit for us.
Can't the Rockets follow this plan but just replace Brewer with TMac? Put Head or Frahm at the 2 and then they can actually hurt the other team when everyone is guarding Yao and TMac. JVG has shown no difficulty in generating open looks in his offense, especially at the arc, we just need to have players who can capitalize, and that is JJ Redick to a T.
Who on Dallas will JJ Redick not get torched by? He definitely cannot keep up with Terry, Stackhouse, Harris, and Daniels. I do feel confident he can contain Adrian Griffin, however. Phoenix has Barbosa, Bell, Nash, House. When you look at backcourt match-ups, there is no 1 or 2 for him to guard. Our guards have to do a better job on the perimeter to protect Yao, and Redick cannot do that against the teams we'll have to beat in the playoffs. As for Redick's offense, it's hard not to be scared when you see how an athletic team like LSU was able to control him in the tournament.
We could except our perimeter D would still suffer. Thats why if we get Brewer he can D up the BPP and play some point. T-Mac is an excellent playmaker, but we are better off putting him in position to score instead of letting him create for himself 100% of the time. We were too dependant last season on T-Mac's do-it-all ability, Brewer can create shots for himself and his teammates.
Look at what Jason Terry is doing tonight with all of the attention on Nowitzki. He's not super athletic or big, he is a long range shooter. I could see JJ Redick having those type of games for us with people worried about Tmac and Yao. He seems like he could get hot and just light people up, wide open or not.
I think reddick is the best choice for the rockets. The past two years the rockets have had trouble scoring. Even more so if either yao or tmac went out in the case of this year. So many times when one was out other teams would send the house to yao or tmac only to have many of our shots not go in. For alot of open shots we did not shoot such a high percentage. I really think our first glaring weakness is on offense, as most would agree seeing so many shots missed. Defensivley we can and most of the time do adjust cause of JVG's schemes, although we do get burned alot too. But the lack of scoring puts too much pressure on the defense which caused the Rockets to crumble many times last year and blow leads. We dont need to run him around screens all day, all we need is the correct spacing to make him an asset to our team, and i think thats very important.
This whole post echos my thoughts exactly. Having a 6'7 guy who can legitimately play point guard and hold the other teams best player could be very valuable.
Well, yeah, of course. At the end of the day, we're all still Rockets fans, regardless of personnell decisions(Minus pgabriel maybe?). Obviously none of us have any sort of agenda either, as we have no control over what decision is made. I just think using the #8 pick on JJ will go down as a mistake. Not a huge Eddie Griffin at #7 mistake, but a mistake nonetheless. He will certainly be a serviceable NBA player. His shot alone will guarantee that. I just don't think he'll be much else. We have a chance to hit a homerun with several guys in the draft, and JJ isn't one of them. You guys keep comparing Redick to guys he simply isn't like...In this thread alone, we've talked about Steve Nash, Jason Terry, Michael Redd, Kirk Heinrich, Mike Miller, etc... Completely different skillsets/size/athleticism from all of these guys.
